CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by palerider » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:47 pm

LSAT wrote:xxyzx aka idiot
You're being very cruel to the average idiot.

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by LSAT » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:17 pm

xxyzx reminds me of Trump.....Always has to have the last word.....(watch).

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by palerider » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:35 pm

LSAT wrote:xxyzx reminds me of Trump.....Always has to have the last word.....(watch).
and, like trump, it's often a stupid one. :sigh:

I don't even have to look at the automatic retort below to know it's stupid

Once again, the foe feature saves me a few more brain cells.

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:37 pm

I peeked. He used the "L" word.
Shows he is out of brain cells.

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Post by TASmart » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:40 pm

And unfortunately, PR point is proven once again.
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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by Jasba64 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:22 am

Without reading all of the comments, I can tell you first, you are drooling because your nose isn't cleared enough to breathe through it. I do the same unless I flush my nose or use a nasal spray before going to bed. Second, you feel bad because it's called "sleep inertia". Look it up and you will feel relieved that you now know. I too have it. Hope this helps.

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by Longwalksonthe » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:45 pm

Cpapian wrote:Have you always used a full face mask?

The reason I ask is I just recently went from a nasal mask to nasal pillows. It felt more refreshing with the pillows, stronger force from the air. So I turned the pressure down from 10.5 to 9.5 and results are basically the same so far.

What I am thinking is the larger the mask, the more undirected air floating around. The mask being kind of like the plemun of a furnace. So what blows into the mask and doesn't go into your lungs is a lot and you swallow it.

If you tried a smaller mask type and lowered your maximum pressure ( a lot) you might get the same amount of amount of air in your lungs but less in your stomach.

Just something to think about.
Yes, i have tried nasal pillows but i sleep with my mouth open so the air just goes out of my mouth. I also tried using a chin strap with the nasal pillows and it was just so uncomfortable i couldn't even deal with it. I wish i could use the nasal pillows, much more comfortable. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by Longwalksonthe » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:19 pm

xxyzx wrote:
Longwalksonthe wrote:Hello everyone,

I've posted here before asking for advice and most everyone said i should raise my min pressure, so i did. If i raise it higher than 6.2ish i get really bad Aerophagia, even sometimes at 6.2 or lower i will get it as well, but not nearly as much.

So i've left it at 6.2 min and 20 max for a few weeks and i also have been using max liners because i drool really bad and will always wake up because of the drool and have to wipe off my mask. The mask liners have helped with that, but i think they are also causing large leaks, as you will be able to see in my data.

I've been using CPAP for almost a year, and it's been a nightmare since the beginning. I can remember maybe a handful of times where i've really noticed it helped me but 85% of the time i'm still feeling drowsy all day, especially while driving which is why i got this in the first place.

I did an at home study in the beginning and was determined to have about 15 events per hour. I'm 23, not overweight at all, go to the gym every week and have a good diet. I cannot deal with this my whole life and i've been thinking about trying to get an in lab sleep study to really pinpoint what my issues are and then try to get surgery to fix this. CPAP obviously isn't working and my sleep doctor doesn't seem to know crap so this is why i'm coming here again.

Here is some of my data:
https://imgur.com/a/4dtDp

You will notice i usually use it 3-5 times a night, sometimes longer than other times because i literally can't stand the machine, sometimes i'll wake up with really bad aerophagia and just take the mask off because my stomach is absolutely killing me. Whats the point in using it if it hasn't helped me for a year.

So any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

surgery should be the last gasp desperation fix

i dont like sleep labs but to pinpoint other sleep issues they may be useful
an IHT will definitively id OA
Why would surgery be your last option? I'm 23 years old and absolutely do not want to sleep with a mask on for the rest of my life.

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by RicaLynn » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:35 pm

Why would surgery be your last option? I'm 23 years old and absolutely do not want to sleep with a mask on for the rest of my life.
No surgery has been shown to be nearly as effective at treating (notice I didn't say "curing") sleep apnea as Xpap, surgery is invasive and risky, and UPPP in particular has been shown to have some unpleasant side effects down the road. I'm only 42 but having a hose at my nose is a whole lot better than chipping up my sinuses/palate only to *continue* needing a hose at my nose...

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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by TASmart » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:02 pm

To each their own. Gather the facts, listen to well-reasoned opinions, then make your decision.
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Re: CPAP just isn't working. Need advice

Post by TedVPAP » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:13 pm

I consulted a surgeon after ~1 year of Bi-PAP treatment. I was tired of being bloated and I just wanted to use a lower pressure.
The surgeon told me that there were no obvious reasons to expect success. He had no confidence in success; and in fact a higher pressure could be the result.

Subsequently, I now use APAP at a slightly lower pressure and I stay off my back and bloating is no longer a problem.

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