How Long To Make Up For Lost Sleep/Deprivation?

Just started really using CPAP (even if I have to hold it with bobby pins). When can I expect to make up for deprivation? I still feel tired and its been at least 2-3 weeks....

How effective is your therapy? What's your AHI? What does the leak line look like?

How many hours are you sleeping? What is your subjective judgment of your sleep quality?

Do you get sufficient exercise and eat a good diet? Are you overweight?

How many hours of sleep...real sleep are you getting and are those hours of sleep fragmented with multiple wake ups for any reason?

As to how long? It varies widely...some get lucky and it's fairly immediate but most will take weeks and even months before they feel marked improvement even with really good "numbers" on their cpap reports.

Everyone is different and improve at different speeds and sometimes there are other factors involved that the machine can't fix. There's a lot more to feeling the good numbers than just getting them. Wish it wasn't the case because getting good numbers is the easy part.

ChicagoGranny wrote:How effective is your therapy? What's your AHI? What does the leak line look like?

How many hours are you sleeping? What is your subjective judgment of your sleep quality?

Do you get sufficient exercise and eat a good diet? Are you overweight?

What do you mean, 'how effective is my therapy?'- I'm using the CPAP, so it should ideally be working... my last sleep study was in 2014, trying to get a new one now.

I eat more or less healthy, certainly healthier than the average American. And my exercise is more or less good too. Not overweight, in fact, I could probably afford to put on a few more pounds.

Pugsy wrote:How many hours of sleep...real sleep are you getting and are those hours of sleep fragmented with multiple wake ups for any reason?

As to how long? It varies widely...some get lucky and it's fairly immediate but most will take weeks and even months before they feel marked improvement even with really good "numbers" on their cpap reports.

Everyone is different and improve at different speeds and sometimes there are other factors involved that the machine can't fix. There's a lot more to feeling the good numbers than just getting them. Wish it wasn't the case because getting good numbers is the easy part.

I don't believe I'm waking up now that I'm using the CPAP, but of course it's impossible to know that in a sleepy daze. How do I know if I'm getting good numbers? How can I measure/keep track of all this???

What are your pressure settings and have you gained even a little weight recently? We don't ask questions for nothing, but try to hone in on likely ones.

Kabuto wrote:How do I know if I'm getting good numbers? How can I measure/keep track of all this???

Hopefully you have a full data cpap machine and can use SleepyHead software to see for sure what is going on.

There's a lot more to getting optimal therapy than just slapping a mask on and turning it on.

Don't know about SleepyHead
https://sleep.tnet.com/equipment

xxyzx wrote:

Kabuto wrote:Just started really using CPAP (even if I have to hold it with bobby pins). When can I expect to make up for deprivation? I still feel tired and its been at least 2-3 weeks....

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depends what other problems you have

mere sleep deprivation comes back fast
damage from low spO2 may take longer
and continued bad sleep is never fixed until you solve that problem even if you fix the apneas with a cpap

What do you mean by damage from low sp02? And what other sleep issues would need fixing aside from sleep apnea?

Julie wrote:What are your pressure settings and have you gained even a little weight recently? We don't ask questions for nothing, but try to hone in on likely ones.

Pressure has been 10, and if anything I've lost weight since my last study.

Pugsy wrote:

Kabuto wrote:How do I know if I'm getting good numbers? How can I measure/keep track of all this???

Hopefully you have a full data cpap machine and can use SleepyHead software to see for sure what is going on.

There's a lot more to getting optimal therapy than just slapping a mask on and turning it on.

Don't know about SleepyHead
https://sleep.tnet.com/equipment

My sleep machine is a BMC model- my insurance just sent it over.

ChicagoGranny wrote:How effective is your therapy? What's your AHI? What does the leak line look like?

How many hours are you sleeping? What is your subjective judgment of your sleep quality?

Do you get sufficient exercise and eat a good diet? Are you overweight?

Yikes, good questions.

My AHI is all over the place and far higher than without CPAP but Pugsy says it's almost all SWJ. Leaks seem to be ok - one or two times in the night the back door opens and the wind tunnel starts.

7-8 hours of sleep, don't remember waking up in the night but generally feel lousy in the morning - like I could sleep and sleep.

Excerise? LOL Please be serious, my ability to exercise was taken away last year - other than a few weeks in the spring and fall when the temperature is right and I can walk my dog. I got up to 2 miles at a brisk pace this spring but haven't walked in 6 months.

I eat a high protein, low carb diet trying to drop the last 5 lbs to get to my age 25 weight (on my military ID card from way back when)

How does all that compare to others?

Kabuto wrote: My sleep machine is a BMC model- my insurance just sent it over.

Your insurance sent nothing.
It was the DME who sent the machine. Insurance doesn't care one whit as to which brand or model.
All cpap/apap machines fall under the E0601 billing code...
I am not familiar with that machine but I am betting a cheap no useful data brick because the DME makes more profit on it because your insurance pays the same for it as they would for a top of the line apap from ResMed or Respironics.

xxyzx wrote:

xxyzx wrote:[
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depends what other problems you have

mere sleep deprivation comes back fast
damage from low spO2 may take longer
and continued bad sleep is never fixed until you solve that problem even if you fix the apneas with a cpap

What do you mean by damage from low sp02? And what other sleep issues would need fixing aside from sleep apnea?

lack of oxygen kills cells

if not too bad they regenerate
even the brain

but if damage has gone too far then full recovery may not happen

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I'm 26 years old. I should hope these cells would regenerate, no? I can't go the rest of my life feeling sleep deprived...

Pugsy wrote:

Kabuto wrote: My sleep machine is a BMC model- my insurance just sent it over.

Your insurance sent nothing.
It was the DME who sent the machine. Insurance doesn't care one whit as to which brand or model.
All cpap/apap machines fall under the E0601 billing code...
I am not familiar with that machine but I am betting a cheap no useful data brick because the DME makes more profit on it because your insurance pays the same for it as they would for a top of the line apap from ResMed or Respironics.

Hm, via Google, it DOES seem to be the cheaper model. Bummer.... Hopefully this won't be such a big deal?

Max, this IS Kabuto's thread.. you have a few of your own going, no?

It's not just about feeling tired. The first week I was still tired but stopped nodding off in meetings. I didn't have to shift into park at red lights any more. I stopped being jolted awake by my tires bouncing off curbs. I was still tired but could keep myself awake. That was the week of July 24th, so I've almost completed eight weeks. Today I'm not tired at all and fully aware of what's going on around me. I'll work all day and go to a high school football game tonight.

Everybody's different, but hope that helps.

Kabuto wrote: Hm, via Google, it DOES seem to be the cheaper model. Bummer.... Hopefully this won't be such a big deal?

Well...it could end up being a very big deal. If your therapy isn't optimal (and how could they check it with a no data cheapo machine) about all they can do when/if you complain of no improvement is offer "give it time" ....problem being if the therapy is sub optimal no amount of time will fix it.

Read this
https://maskarrayed.wordpress.com/
especially the part of the blog down on the page a little "help I have been given a brick"....and I am thinking that your machine is a brick and the only data it will offer is hours of use.

We would need the exact model name to know for sure.

xxyzx wrote:

Julie wrote:Max, this IS Kabuto's thread.. you have a few of your own going, no?

max has many scattered threads going
but does not like the answers he got

Would it be possible for you to pay attention? Just once?

All I have gotten are "maybes". I have had zero ANSWERS from any doctor, tech, or the folks here - because I don't have a textbook issue (unless it ends up being UARS). I have had a lot of help with things to try, but those have yet to yield any answers.

But hijacking someone else's thread to keep whining about your issues is not going to help you, let alone him.