Ideal APAP machine height
Ideal APAP machine height
I read my user manual the other day and was surprised to see the manufacturer recommends the APAP height should be lower than the mattress height.
Looking at my set up, the night table is about 9 inches higher than the mattress. I asked the DME about this. She said that recommendation was to guard against rainout. When the machine is lower any rainout would fall back into the machine not me.
I don't have a problem with rainout with my loaner machine. And, I put the hose over the headboard to take the pressure off my face.
I have a lower shelf on the night table, but it is so low I feel I will be inviting a lot of dust. It is so low the Roomba can't get under it.
I guess the risk is rainout versus dust.
What do you do with regard to positioning. Any other considerations, recommendations?
Looking at my set up, the night table is about 9 inches higher than the mattress. I asked the DME about this. She said that recommendation was to guard against rainout. When the machine is lower any rainout would fall back into the machine not me.
I don't have a problem with rainout with my loaner machine. And, I put the hose over the headboard to take the pressure off my face.
I have a lower shelf on the night table, but it is so low I feel I will be inviting a lot of dust. It is so low the Roomba can't get under it.
I guess the risk is rainout versus dust.
What do you do with regard to positioning. Any other considerations, recommendations?
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
Mine is a little higher than my mattress...maybe not as much as where you want to put yours but it's maybe 4 or 5 inches higher.
No problems with it and having it lower doesn't necessarily guarantee no rain out anyway. If you get condensation in the hose gravity can help the water run back down into the humidifier but if you put an uphill in the path (like running the hose upwards or over the headboard or use a hose management hanging system) the water can't run uphill.
If you get rain out...there are ways to deal with it that involve warming up the hose in some way (several options).
You might not even get condensation in the hose anyway...so don't worry about it unless you have it happen to you.
It's annoying but won't hurt you.
I wouldn't want it high over my head but not because of rain out...I would be more afraid of pulling it off its perch over my head and having it land on my head.
But I do know a couple of people who have their machines sitting high on a shelf directly above their head. I think they bungee cord it to make sure they won't pull it down on their head.
No problems with it and having it lower doesn't necessarily guarantee no rain out anyway. If you get condensation in the hose gravity can help the water run back down into the humidifier but if you put an uphill in the path (like running the hose upwards or over the headboard or use a hose management hanging system) the water can't run uphill.
If you get rain out...there are ways to deal with it that involve warming up the hose in some way (several options).
You might not even get condensation in the hose anyway...so don't worry about it unless you have it happen to you.
It's annoying but won't hurt you.
I wouldn't want it high over my head but not because of rain out...I would be more afraid of pulling it off its perch over my head and having it land on my head.
But I do know a couple of people who have their machines sitting high on a shelf directly above their head. I think they bungee cord it to make sure they won't pull it down on their head.
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
Thanks for your advice Pugsy, I appreciate it.
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A little extra moisture can be a lovely thing.
A damp frog is a happy frog.
Before cpap, I suffered all winter with itchy, dry nasal passages.
Best side effect of cpap? Not having 24/7 boogers any more!
A damp frog is a happy frog.
Before cpap, I suffered all winter with itchy, dry nasal passages.
Best side effect of cpap? Not having 24/7 boogers any more!
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
Mine is right at the same height as this mattress. I get rainout once in a while and it wakes me up. If you are getting it once in a while, it's no big deal. If you are getting it regularly, it will disturb your sleep too much.
I haven't done any measurements, but this nightstand seems quite suitable for cpap. Some other folks have removed the top drawer of their multidrawer nightstand, replaced it with a plank of wood and just made that a shelf to lower the cpap a bit.
https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/M ... oduct.html
I haven't done any measurements, but this nightstand seems quite suitable for cpap. Some other folks have removed the top drawer of their multidrawer nightstand, replaced it with a plank of wood and just made that a shelf to lower the cpap a bit.
https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/M ... oduct.html
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
If rain-out is an issue, then yes, you need to put the machine lower than your head. Otherwise, it's not important where you put the machine.
Re: Ideal APAP machine height
I may be going out on a limb here, because there are so many options, especially. if your ruler is in CM's. I'd go with 12 inches off the floor, so the dust bunnies have to jump to get into the machine, and 6 inches below the top of the mattress top, giving rainout a chance to drain back to the HH Tank! Ha! HA!, Fat chance!
Or whatever nite stand that fits those specs. Jim
Or whatever nite stand that fits those specs. Jim
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
New furniture! Does that mean I can go shopping? Ha ha. My husband might have something to say about that.
I think I will let it rest on top of the night table for now and wait for inspiration to dream up something better.
I think I will let it rest on top of the night table for now and wait for inspiration to dream up something better.
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
Put the head of the bed on top of two concrete blocks, and the foot on the floor, that will solve the hight problem and help keep your stomach fluids lower. Win, Win!Cpapian wrote:New furniture! Does that mean I can go shopping? Ha ha. My husband might have something to say about that.
I think I will let it rest on top of the night table for now and wait for inspiration to dream up something better.
Jim
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
I have used this nightstand for two years, now: https://www.wayfair.com/Perdue-Woodwork ... D1000.html I was so impressed with it, I bought one for my wife when she started using a machine this year. We store water in the bottom of one, and keep the bipap bags and spares in the other one.
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
xxyzx wrote:========Okie bipap wrote:I have used this nightstand for two years, now: https://www.wayfair.com/Perdue-Woodwork ... D1000.html I was so impressed with it, I bought one for my wife when she started using a machine this year. We store water in the bottom of one, and keep the bipap bags and spares in the other one.
that would be higher than many beds
there are far cheaper better suited small tables that would be below your actual bed height that can be found readily
dumbkoff xxy.. did you even look at this nightstand??????????????? Mouth in motion, mind at stop again! The machine does not go on top of the nightstand, it goes IN. There is a shelf and a spot for the hose to come out of, take a look, instead of opening your mouth with useless information.
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
+1nanwilson wrote:xxyzx wrote:========Okie bipap wrote:I have used this nightstand for two years, now: https://www.wayfair.com/Perdue-Woodwork ... D1000.html I was so impressed with it, I bought one for my wife when she started using a machine this year. We store water in the bottom of one, and keep the bipap bags and spares in the other one.
that would be higher than many beds
there are far cheaper better suited small tables that would be below your actual bed height that can be found readily
DemkoffXX.. did you even look at this nightstand??????????????? Mouth in motion, mind at stop again! The machine does not go on top of the nightstand, it goes IN. There is a shelf and a spot for the hose to come out of, take a look, instead of opening your mouth with useless information.
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
Nan, we've all learned that "mr brilliance" doesn't have time to read or think, he's got to share the 'TRUTH ACCORDING TO XYYXYYXYXY"(TM) with the world, post haste, no delays!nanwilson wrote:xxyzx wrote:========Okie bipap wrote:I have used this nightstand for two years, now: https://www.wayfair.com/Perdue-Woodwork ... D1000.html I was so impressed with it, I bought one for my wife when she started using a machine this year. We store water in the bottom of one, and keep the bipap bags and spares in the other one.
that would be higher than many beds
there are far cheaper better suited small tables that would be below your actual bed height that can be found readily
DemkoffXX.. did you even look at this nightstand??????????????? Mouth in motion, mind at stop again! The machine does not go on top of the nightstand, it goes IN. There is a shelf and a spot for the hose to come out of, take a look, instead of opening your mouth with useless information.
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
xxyzx wrote:
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paleface you have never learned jack
i think quite well. rocket science is a snap. i do have trouble with accounting though:)
that table was expensive and impractical
why dont you try thinking
there is no way it cuold be used conveniently the way the hyper thinks it could
And you know this how? This is another of your "I know better" posts.
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Re: Ideal APAP machine height
c'mon, lsat, xyzreality is whatever's in his deranged head... It doesn't have anything to do with the real world.LSAT wrote:xxyzx wrote:
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paleface you have never learned jack
i think quite well. rocket science is a snap. i do have trouble with accounting though:)
that table was expensive and impractical
why dont you try thinking
there is no way it cuold be used conveniently the way the hyper thinks it could
And you know this how? This is another of your "I know better" posts.