Distilled water in foreign countries

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by Hannibal 2 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:57 am

palerider wrote:
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palerider wrote:De-io is fine
Are you sure? Would the same warnings apply for humidification of deionised water as they do for drinking it?
Quote: While it's okay to drink distilled water, you should not drink deionized water. In addition to not supplying minerals, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.
Source: https://www.thoughtco.com/distilled-ver ... ter-609435
No, I'm like dreamstalker and I just blather about shit I know nothing about.

See the warning about no minerals? Isn't that what you want in the humidifier, no minerals?

Yes of course, I'm more concerned about the bit that says, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

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Hannibal 2 wrote:
palerider wrote:. . .

See the warning about no minerals? Isn't that what you want in the humidifier, no minerals?

Yes of course, I'm more concerned about the bit that says, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.


No, don't be! This is if you drink it or perhaps cook with it, not if you put it in the humidifier.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by Hannibal 2 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:01 am

D.H. wrote:
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palerider wrote:. . .

See the warning about no minerals? Isn't that what you want in the humidifier, no minerals?

Yes of course, I'm more concerned about the bit that says, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.


No, don't be! This is if you drink it or perhaps cook with it, not if you put it in the humidifier.
Does it not depend on the source of the water used in the process?

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:50 am

Slartybartfast wrote:Just use bottled drinking water. . . .
Some spring waters have high mineral content. I would avoid them.
Such waters are often sold at premium prices, and are labeled as such,
as mineral waters are considered by some to be superior for drinking.
Learn how to read the label--or at least be able to identify the terms for minerals.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by D.H. » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:10 pm

Hannibal 2 wrote:
D.H. wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:
palerider wrote:. . .

See the warning about no minerals? Isn't that what you want in the humidifier, no minerals?

Yes of course, I'm more concerned about the bit that says, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.


No, don't be! This is if you drink it or perhaps cook with it, not if you put it in the humidifier.
Does it not depend on the source of the water used in the process?
If it's truly distilled water, it's fine. If you bought it in a pharmacy and there's no warning about toxicity, there should not be an issue. Do not use "distilled" water from a petrol station!

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by palerider » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:29 pm

Hannibal 2 wrote:
palerider wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:
palerider wrote:De-io is fine
Are you sure? Would the same warnings apply for humidification of deionised water as they do for drinking it?
Quote: While it's okay to drink distilled water, you should not drink deionized water. In addition to not supplying minerals, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.
Source: https://www.thoughtco.com/distilled-ver ... ter-609435
No, I'm like dreamstalker and I just blather about shit I know nothing about.

See the warning about no minerals? Isn't that what you want in the humidifier, no minerals?

Yes of course, I'm more concerned about the bit that says, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.
why?

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by Hannibal 2 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:23 am

palerider wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:
palerider wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:
palerider wrote:De-io is fine
Are you sure? Would the same warnings apply for humidification of deionised water as they do for drinking it?
Quote: While it's okay to drink distilled water, you should not drink deionized water. In addition to not supplying minerals, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.
Source: https://www.thoughtco.com/distilled-ver ... ter-609435
No, I'm like dreamstalker and I just blather about shit I know nothing about.

See the warning about no minerals? Isn't that what you want in the humidifier, no minerals?

Yes of course, I'm more concerned about the bit that says, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.
why?
Because I'm quite fond of my teeth and soft tissues and need to be sure that damage would only be caused by drinking and not humidification.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by palerider » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:40 am

Hannibal 2 wrote:Because I'm quite fond of my teeth and soft tissues and need to be sure that damage would only be caused by drinking and not humidification.
I'm trying to get you to think, and not just run around scared by something you read on the internet. (or maybe read a few more things)

a further quote from the scary thing you quoted earlier: " However, you can drink distilled, deionized water after the water has been exposed to air for a while."

now, let's put on our thinking caps here... are you DRINKING any of this water? no not unless you're doing the whole humidification thing very wrong.

how does distillation work? you heat up liquid water, and water vapor comes off of it, then that water vapor is collected, and condensed back to liquid.

what's happening in your cpap humidifier? it's heating up liquid water, creating water vapor, which gets caught up in the airflow, and carried through to the the mask... maybe some of it condenses and you might get a few droplets of rainout if you've got things cranked up too far... so, what's that... distilled deionized water... which is ... what did that quote say?

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by Hannibal 2 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:21 pm

Thank you, that's a much better response, really appreciate you taking the time, I could have searched for more info myself but you saved me the trouble and that's very helpful.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by palerider » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:42 pm

Hannibal 2 wrote:Thank you, that's a much better response, really appreciate you taking the time, I could have searched for more info myself but you saved me the trouble and that's very helpful.
best of luck always finding someone to do your thinking for you... ta.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by Hannibal 2 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:26 am

palerider wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:Thank you, that's a much better response, really appreciate you taking the time, I could have searched for more info myself but you saved me the trouble and that's very helpful.
best of luck always finding someone to do your thinking for you... ta.
Not always, but sometimes. And I do always appreciate your help and guidance. And as it's CPAP related, the info may well help someone else too on a forum search.
Thanks again.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by archangle » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:01 am

Hannibal 2 wrote:Yes of course, I'm more concerned about the bit that says, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.
The idea that deionized (DI) water is hazardous to teeth or your health is complete BS, even if you drink it, much less if you put it in your humidifier. The same thing is said for distilled water. Neither one is going to hurt you in your humidifier tank because the water vapor coming out of your water tank is inherently distilled.

DI water does tend to corrode metal in industrial settings because water is corrosive. In many places, tap water isn't as corrosive as DI because it has minerals that tend to build up scale on metal surfaces. Your saliva is what remineralizes your teeth, not drinking water. A bunch of morons and scam artists are also claiming that distilled water harms your health because you need the minerals in ordinary water. This has been dismissed as nonsense long ago. Unless you're eating food grown on distilled water, you're still getting the necessary minerals through your food. It also wouldn't apply unless you're drinking ONLY distilled water.

The one risk would be drinking DI or distilled water not intended for human consumption. DI means no ions, but it could conceivably have non-ionic contaminants. Distilled water loses almost all minerals, but could still have some chemical contaminants. If you're getting DI or distilled water from some source intended to be used in equipment or industrial settings, it's possible it might not be pure, or even if it was pure coming out of the water treatment equipment, it might get contaminated in the processing equipment after purification. Even food and drink that is safe for human consumption needs to be handled properly to avoid contamination.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by archangle » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:04 am

Also, if you can drink the tap water, it's OK to use in your humidifier. Just dump the water and clean the tank every morning. Keep an eye out for crud buildup in the tank, and clean or replace as necessary.

The only thing it might harm is your humidifier tank, and those are replaceable.

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Re: Distilled water in foreign countries

Post by DreamStalker » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:45 am

palerider wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:
palerider wrote:De-io is fine
Are you sure? Would the same warnings apply for humidification of deionised water as they do for drinking it?
Quote: While it's okay to drink distilled water, you should not drink deionized water. In addition to not supplying minerals, deionized water is corrosive and can cause damage to tooth enamel and soft tissues.
Source: https://www.thoughtco.com/distilled-ver ... ter-609435
No, I'm like dreamstalker and I just blather about shit I know nothing about.

See the warning about no minerals? Isn't that what you want in the humidifier, no minerals?


I had no input in this thread until now. When have I ever "blathered" anything about tooth damage or water in foreign countries?

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