Is OSA hereditary in your family?

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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:40 am

Hannibal 2 wrote:The study concluded that patients with positive oximeter readings or clinical scores of 3 or higher would indicate the presence of sleep apnea. The researchers also recommended repeating the pulse oximeter measurements over multiple nights to increase the accuracy."
The only problem I have with using a pulse ox to try to self diagnose OSA is that while a positive (documented desats) are pretty reliable there are those people who have OSA that don't desat all that much so there's a chance of false negatives in terms of OSA.
No desats don't always mean no OSA. I have a friend who has severe OSA, AHI in the 60s and her pulse ox never went below 96% and this was an in lab sleep study pulse ox report...I read it.

If you are using a pulse ox on someone who is already in denial and it comes up negative for many desats they tend to say "see I don't have OSA" and blow it off because we just gave them something that says they didn't have it.
There's more to OSA than just desats. Now the chances are there would be some desats but it isn't 100% because no desats or very minimal desats can happen even with severe OSA. We don't always have the big earth shattering wake up call desats. Now if someone was still open to OSA even with an unremarkable pulse ox report...it's an easy way to do a screening. Not expensive and not intrusive...just a little doodad on the finger or wrist.

It just scares me when the entire diagnosis depends on the pulse ox when people are in denial...they will look for any excuse in the world to validate their "I don't need a machine" defense.

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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:51 am

I have a friend who had a quadruple bypass. When I mentioned OSA he sternly said heart disease runs in my family. I tried to tell him so does OSA (which leads to heart disease) but without success. He tried my cpap one nite and said get that thing out of here.

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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Hannibal 2 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:17 am

Pugsy wrote:
It just scares me when the entire diagnosis depends on the pulse ox when people are in denial...they will look for any excuse in the world to validate their "I don't need a machine" defense.
Proper diagnosis it is for my son then unless I can persuade him to try my machine.

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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Goofproof » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:15 am

Julie wrote:Pulse ox's usually come with instructions.
Mines just got one button, but I have 8 fingers and two thumbs, we won't even get into toes , I'll figure it out in time. Jim
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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:21 am

Ignorance and bullheadedness also run in families, I've noticed . . .

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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:32 am

chunkyfrog wrote:Ignorance and bullheadedness also run in families, I've noticed . . .
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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Uncle_Bob » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:03 pm

Hannibal 2 wrote:
Uncle_Bob wrote:Any chance you could purchase a fairly inexpensive fingertip pulse oximeter to help try and prove a point?
They are on amazon.
There's an idea, I just need to read up on how to use one
If you decide to purchase one then you absolutely need to made sure it is a recording one and not just an instant read one.

I spent $35 on the following

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Finger-Puls ... B00B8L8ZXE

These are available under several brand names made by the same manufacturer (Contec) you may see the brand PULOX in the UK.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PULOX-Oximeter ... B0021D4G9A

The instructions are bit of a challenge but there will be some help here if you decide to purchase one.
I would stay away from the ones with the built in rechargeable battery and get one with replaceable batteries.

Good luck

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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Hannibal 2 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:24 pm

Uncle_Bob wrote:
Hannibal 2 wrote:
Uncle_Bob wrote:Any chance you could purchase a fairly inexpensive fingertip pulse oximeter to help try and prove a point?
They are on amazon.
There's an idea, I just need to read up on how to use one
If you decide to purchase one then you absolutely need to made sure it is a recording one and not just an instant read one.

I spent $35 on the following

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Finger-Puls ... B00B8L8ZXE

These are available under several brand names made by the same manufacturer (Contec) you may see the brand PULOX in the UK.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PULOX-Oximeter ... B0021D4G9A

The instructions are bit of a challenge but there will be some help here if you decide to purchase one.
I would stay away from the ones with the built in rechargeable battery and get one with replaceable batteries.

Good luck
That UK alternative works out nearly $100! So not really an inexpensive option but thanks for taking the time to find the info.

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Re: Is OSA hereditary in your family?

Post by Arlene1963 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:40 am

Not sure which side I got this from: my mom sleeps maybe 5 hours per night, tops, and I recall this from the time I was a very little girl ... Could her insomnia have been a symptom of OSA? However, she is a fairly healthy 85 year old now and never had other OSA symptoms.

All her siblings (3 in total, two brothers and a sister) also have fairly bad insomnia/sleep issues and they are now all in their late 70s to early 80s. However, both of her brothers had heart attacks in their mid fifties despite the fact that they were both very active at the time, cycling, running etc.

My mom's dad died in his sleep at 61. No autopsy was done in those days but a heart attack was suspected. I think this points to OSA...

My dad has snored up a storm since I can remember. He would wake up in front of TV, having fallen asleep, gasping for breath between snores. He mitigated his OSA with exercise, I suspect. He is now 82. Still snores. Falls asleep anytime, any place. Has high cholesterol, resistant hypertension, has had several small strokes ... but still runs 5km several times a week.

I suggested he try CPAP and he absolutely refuses.

So maternal and paternal sides have indicators, maybe fortunately I can't pin the blame solely on one parent!!

I firmly believe OSA is hereditary.