Will we ever adjust?

Pugsy wrote: The person who was complaining about the Amara View blowing into their eyes....I just went and looked at where the vent holes are because I was having a hard time seeing how it was possible to blow in a person's eyes if it was properly fitted and not blocked or deflected by something.
So I looked closely at my Amara View. The vent holes face forward...nothing goes upwards back towards the eyes.
There are tiny holes in the plastic frame just above the swivel for venting and they go forward...and there is a little opening in the swivel for venting and it faces forward.
The only way this forward blowing air could make it to the eyes if it is getting deflected by maybe an arm or the bed covers or bed pillow.
Now if the cushion itself was leaking...yeah some air could make it maybe to the eyes but not the venting unless deflected by something.

So it won't hit your eyes unless you block it somehow but it likely will blow on your wife.

I cannot explain it but I have the venting issue with the Amara View. It almost feels like the air vents & then falls back toward the face & eyes.
I did not have that problem with the ResMed Quattro Air or F20 full face masks.

BTW, I am not the user Pugsy referred to. Just another user that experienced a similar issue. IF anyone is interested in purchasing a lightly used Medium Amara View, PM be for details.

prodigyplace wrote:I cannot explain it but I have the venting issue with the Amara View. It almost feels like the air vents & then falls back toward the face & eyes.

I have never used the Amara View, but it gets very good user reviews - https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... eviews-tab

I would discount your problem as an anamoly.

Tahera11979 wrote:Guess what?!? I have been told that regardless of how much we change the pressure at home it won't make the respective change as it is apparently protected and only the provider can do that. Is this even possible?

no, it's a lie.

ChicagoGranny wrote:

prodigyplace wrote:I cannot explain it but I have the venting issue with the Amara View. It almost feels like the air vents & then falls back toward the face & eyes.

I have never used the Amara View, but it gets very good user reviews - https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... eviews-tab

I would discount your problem as an anamoly.

or an unrecognized mask leak. air can't "fall back".

ChicagoGranny wrote:

prodigyplace wrote:I cannot explain it but I have the venting issue with the Amara View. It almost feels like the air vents & then falls back toward the face & eyes.

I have never used the Amara View, but it gets very good user reviews - https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... eviews-tab

I would discount your problem as an anamoly.

Perhaps, but I tried a few times with a couple of different mask sizes. The flowing air tends to wake me up. It has not done that with any other mask I have tried. (Resmed P10, Quantum Air, F20).
I had other issues with the F20 so it is being returned to cpap.com. Iwill probably get a Quantum Air since I know I can use that. I will just need to adjust my pressure settings to improve results.

The Amara View is probably a good mask for some or most people. Unfortunately, I am not in that group.

Thank you all for your helpful input, things for me to consider here before buying an Amara View. Apologies to Tahera for slightly hijacking her thread.

Back on topic, yes you should definitely be using a filter, just look at how much dust and grime a fan collects over time, that's going into your machine and worse still into your husband's lungs. I'd put it back but mention the noise, unless it was just not fitted correctly.

prodigyplace wrote:Perhaps

There is no "perhaps" to it. Your experience is an anomaly. I read about 30 of the reviews, and no one mentioned your problem. And like I have already said, it gets very good user reviews.

Hannibal 2 wrote:worse still into your husband's lungs

Yes, the filter should be used to protect the machine from collecting dust. But, as has been discussed many times before, unfiltered air is going into the husband's lungs 16 or so hours per day. It's not killing him.

palerider wrote: or an unrecognized mask leak. air can't "fall back".

I agree. Air can't "fall back" .
I got my Amara View out and I looked real closely at the vent placement and in what direction the air flows..it's forward.
Nothing on top of the cushion to vent maybe into the eyes. It's just not going to happen. I used this mask for a month so I have first hand experience with it.
If air is hitting the eyes...it's either a leak at the cushion most likely on the side of the nostrils or something is deflecting the air movement back into the face.

It's a nice mask...is it going to work for everyone? Of course not, there's no mask out there that suits 100% of the population.
If it doesn't work for someone...move on to something else.
My whole point was to clear up Hannibal's wondering about the mask venting into the eyes...it doesn't and it can't.
Now air may make it to the eye area from a little leak or the forward vented air getting blocked by something and bouncing back on the face but the vent holes themselves don't point the air upwards at all...they direct the air flow out in front of a person.

Now will Hannibal like it? Dunno. One man's treasure is another man's trash.
Now will Hannibal's wife like it....I doubt it...going to be a stiff breeze coming from that mask and if she is in front of it she is going to feel it.

jds2001 wrote:If it's an AutoPAP, there's no need for A-Trial - as it can operate as full-time Auto.

There may indeed be no need for A-Trial, but Pugsy's image of the Provider Manual clearly shows A-Trial as one of the options available for the model. That's why I was questioning the accuracy of the Manual: the machine itself doesn't show the option, but the Manual says it can. Hence the confusion of Pugsy and the OP.

Jean out

Soothest Sleep wrote: There may indeed be no need for A-Trial, but Pugsy's image of the Provider Manual clearly shows A-Trial as one of the options available for the model. That's why I was questioning the accuracy of the Manual: the machine itself doesn't show the option, but the Manual says it can. Hence the confusion of Pugsy and the OP.

There's another factor that I just found out about that might explain why the manual says one thing but the OP can't find it on her machine.
She is in the UAE and sometimes cpap machine manufacturers don't keep the same features available on machines that are sent elsewhere in the world. We don't know that is what happened here but it would not be impossible for Respironics to ship a slightly different featured machine to Europe or the Middle East or where ever than they ship to us here in the US and I am pretty sure the manual is for the US machines.

At any rate...she really doesn't want part time auto mode anyway..she wants full time auto mode and is pursuing getting the equipment supplier to swap out for a full time auto unit.

FWIW...I just checked and the manual that I took those snap shots of the pages is dated June 2016...so it is a fairly new manual.
It's not like the manual was old and Respironics decided to pull the A Trial feature and we were referring to an old manual from back when they did offer A trial mode.

palerider wrote:

Tahera11979 wrote:Guess what?!? I have been told that regardless of how much we change the pressure at home it won't make the respective change as it is apparently protected and only the provider can do that. Is this even possible?

no, it's a lie.

We figured that as well. They just want us to come back and pay even more which we didn't of course.

Hannibal 2 wrote:Thank you all for your helpful input, things for me to consider here before buying an Amara View. Apologies to Tahera for slightly hijacking her thread.

Back on topic, yes you should definitely be using a filter, just look at how much dust and grime a fan collects over time, that's going into your machine and worse still into your husband's lungs. I'd put it back but mention the noise, unless it was just not fitted correctly.

No worries at all. I am glad we can help each other. I really hope that you will find the right mask. Keep us posted!

In terms of the filter I told my dh to insert it back just to be on the safe side. I hope that the new machine (Which we will hopefully get) will not make so much noise.

ChicagoGranny wrote:

prodigyplace wrote:Perhaps

There is no "perhaps" to it. Your experience is an anomaly. I read about 30 of the reviews, and no one mentioned your problem. And like I have already said, it gets very good user reviews.

Hannibal 2 wrote:worse still into your husband's lungs

Yes, the filter should be used to protect the machine from collecting dust. But, as has been discussed many times before, unfiltered air is going into the husband's lungs 16 or so hours per day. It's not killing him.

Good point!

Pugsy wrote:

Soothest Sleep wrote: There may indeed be no need for A-Trial, but Pugsy's image of the Provider Manual clearly shows A-Trial as one of the options available for the model. That's why I was questioning the accuracy of the Manual: the machine itself doesn't show the option, but the Manual says it can. Hence the confusion of Pugsy and the OP.

There's another factor that I just found out about that might explain why the manual says one thing but the OP can't find it on her machine.
She is in the UAE and sometimes cpap machine manufacturers don't keep the same features available on machines that are sent elsewhere in the world. We don't know that is what happened here but it would not be impossible for Respironics to ship a slightly different featured machine to Europe or the Middle East or where ever than they ship to us here in the US and I am pretty sure the manual is for the US machines.

At any rate...she really doesn't want part time auto mode anyway..she wants full time auto mode and is pursuing getting the equipment supplier to swap out for a full time auto unit.

I agree. The one reason I can think about is they took the option off so users will have to pay extra. Health care here is very expensive and most hospitals try and charge us wherever they can.
We are on the right track though and I really really hope that we will swap to the Auto machine soon as it will be better than having only the trial mode.

I will keep you all posted!