SleepyHead: Not Showing Correct Bedtime

Hi everyone,

I have been using SleepyHead not for several years. This morning, I got a better understand of how it works that I didn't know before, and that is regarding time.
SleepyHead is showing the correct wake-up time, but not the correct bedtime. Since I've started going to a sleep doctor, I am trying to practice better sleep hygiene.
Last night, I did finally it correctly. The wake-up time is correct, but the bedtime is incorrect. I went to bed probably around 11:25 pm, yet the time is showing 2:16 am. What gives??? I know for a fact that I did go to sleep with it on, and woke-up with it on. So on that note, the data for last night is incorrect.

Thank you in advance,
Starlette

Does the display show the correct number of hours?
There has been mention of a bug in Sleepyhead . . .

No, I need to need to make a correction in the matter of bedtime, it was 12:02am. SleepyHead shows a bedtime of 2:16 am, which is a total sleep time of 4 hours. Whereas, the total sleep time should be around 6 hours.

Odd the wake up time was correct, but the bed time was not. Is it possible you had two sessions?
There is a setting in SleepyHead to ignore short sessions under File/Preferences. It is adjustable with settings up to 240 minutes (two hours). If yours is set at 240, and your first session was less than two hours, it would be ignored.
Just something to check.
Edit: I just checked the above and it is not quite correct. It is combine session within 240 minutes and ignore shore sessions up to 90 minutes. Anyway, it wouldn't hurt to check.

Exactly which version of SleepyHead are you using?
If one of the older versions maybe time to upgrade???

Thank you Jay, you are absolutely correct, thank you again. What I had to adjust was the "Ignore Short Sessions" (I thought all this time, it meant something else). To show the correct bedtime (and it did), that first session was around 15 minutes long. However, when I reset to 20 minutes, that session disappeared, and the time automatically shifted to 2:16am.

Now, can you or someone else explain to me what is meant by "Combine close sections"?

Starlette

Starlette wrote:Now, can you or someone else explain to me what is meant by "Combine close sections"?

I haven't used it much, but here is how I think it should work.
Let say you are using a ResMed machine and the "day" starts at noon. Further, let say you are sleeping late into the morning, wake at 11:30 AM and get up for an hour and go back to bed at 12:30 PM. Normally, the afternoon session would be on the next day's (night's) report, but if you have "combine close sessions" set for more than 1 hour, SleepyHead should keep and tabulate the afternoon session with the one that ended at 11:30 AM.
At least, that's how I understand it should work.
I'm not sure at what hour Respironics' days start, but I can envision this setting working the same way around that hour. Don't know if it does or not.

Jay Aitchsee wrote:

Starlette wrote:Now, can you or someone else explain to me what is meant by "Combine close sections"?

I haven't used it much, but here is how I think it should work.
Let say you are using a ResMed machine and the "day" starts at noon. Further, let say you are sleeping late into the morning, wake at 11:30 AM and get up for an hour and go back to bed at 12:30 PM. Normally, the afternoon session would be on the next day's (night's) report, but if you have "combine close sessions" set for more than 1 hour, SleepyHead should keep and tabulate the afternoon session with the one that ended at 11:30 AM.
At least, that's how I understand it should work.
I'm not sure at what hour Respironics' days start, but I can envision this setting working the same way around that hour. Don't know if it does or not.

I don't believe it has anything to do with day splitting (that's another setting) but if combine close sessions is off, and you turn off the machine for a few minutes to go to the bathroom, or refill the tank in the middle of the night, or whatever, you'll have two sessions (or more, depending on what was done) show up in the session list. turn on combine close sessions and SH will just merge those into a single one so that things 'look' a little better.

Jay Aitchsee wrote:I haven't used it much, but here is how I think it should work.

palerider wrote:I don't believe it has anything to do with day splitting (that's another setting) but if combine close sessions is off, and you turn off the machine for a few minutes to go to the bathroom, or refill the tank in the middle of the night, or whatever, you'll have two sessions (or more, depending on what was done) show up in the session list. turn on combine close sessions and SH will just merge those into a single one so that things 'look' a little better.

Could be, though mine has been set at 240 for quite some time and I still see multiple sessions listed, even though my breaks are usually only a couple of minutes in duration.

Last night I had a machine off break of 4 minutes. I just checked, regardless of Combine Close Sessions setting (Off or 240), there are two sessions listed for the night. Since I never sleep past noon, I can't check my earlier hypothesis, but the pop up does say "multiple sessions closer together than this value will be kept on the same day".

Jay Aitchsee wrote:

Jay Aitchsee wrote:I haven't used it much, but here is how I think it should work.

palerider wrote:I don't believe it has anything to do with day splitting (that's another setting) but if combine close sessions is off, and you turn off the machine for a few minutes to go to the bathroom, or refill the tank in the middle of the night, or whatever, you'll have two sessions (or more, depending on what was done) show up in the session list. turn on combine close sessions and SH will just merge those into a single one so that things 'look' a little better.

Could be, though mine has been set at 240 for quite some time and I still see multiple sessions listed, even though my breaks are usually only a couple of minutes in duration.

Last night I had a machine off break of 4 minutes. I just checked, regardless of Combine Close Sessions setting (Off or 240), there are two sessions listed for the night. Since I never sleep past noon, I can't check my earlier hypothesis, but the pop up does say "multiple sessions closer together than this value will be kept on the same day".

I could be wrong then the tooltip says "multiple sessions closer together than this value will be kept on the same day"... so it sounds like you're right...

however, I had to change the 'day split time' because it was cutting off stuff at noon, so any time after noon would start on the next day even if it was a single session. so I changed it to 6pm. so, I dunno.

palerider wrote:

Jay Aitchsee wrote:

Jay Aitchsee wrote:I haven't used it much, but here is how I think it should work.

palerider wrote:I don't believe it has anything to do with day splitting (that's another setting) but if combine close sessions is off, and you turn off the machine for a few minutes to go to the bathroom, or refill the tank in the middle of the night, or whatever, you'll have two sessions (or more, depending on what was done) show up in the session list. turn on combine close sessions and SH will just merge those into a single one so that things 'look' a little better.

Could be, though mine has been set at 240 for quite some time and I still see multiple sessions listed, even though my breaks are usually only a couple of minutes in duration.

Last night I had a machine off break of 4 minutes. I just checked, regardless of Combine Close Sessions setting (Off or 240), there are two sessions listed for the night. Since I never sleep past noon, I can't check my earlier hypothesis, but the pop up does say "multiple sessions closer together than this value will be kept on the same day".

I could be wrong then the tooltip says "multiple sessions closer together than this value will be kept on the same day"... so it sounds like you're right...

however, I had to change the 'day split time' because it was cutting off stuff at noon, so any time after noon would start on the next day even if it was a single session. so I changed it to 6pm. so, I dunno.

Oh well, what I said below is only how I thought it should work. I have no proof that it does. For me, maybe for you, and probably for most people, the setting seems to make little difference. Maybe it doesn't do anything!

Jay Aitchsee wrote:I haven't used it much, but here is how I think it should work. Let say you are using a ResMed machine and the "day" starts at noon. Further, let say you are sleeping late into the morning, wake at 11:30 AM and get up for an hour and go back to bed at 12:30 PM. Normally, the afternoon session would be on the next day's (night's) report, but if you have "combine close sessions" set for more than 1 hour, SleepyHead should keep and tabulate the afternoon session with the one that ended at 11:30 AM.At least, that's how I understand it should work. I'm not sure at what hour Respironics' days start, but I can envision this setting working the same way around that hour. Don't know if it does or not.

Jay Aitchsee wrote: Maybe it doesn't do anything!

well, you may indeed be onto something there. there are other 'settings' in SH that don't do anything... like all that info asked when setting up a new profile? (including the time zone and country?) completely ignored. yes, SH asks for the timezone and country and stuff, then completely ignores it and just uses local time.