Cervical collars: recommend foam with holes punched in?

Lucyhere wrote:

avi123 wrote:Sir Nodinoff, You can use these Trachea Opening Collars which have a ready made hole for your ventilation:

http://cdn.opentip.com/Health-Personal- ... ct_related

Who could sleep with that thing? If needed in the hospital, I could understand. But, sleeping with it every night??? Gawd.

A collar like this could eliminate your mouth leaks, and also keep you ventilated:



It costs around $20.

Sir NoddinOff wrote:

ChicagoGranny wrote:

Sir NoddinOff wrote:It's odd that there is nothing out there like that.

I have one that I use for 12-minute naps without CPAP. Need to take a pic and post it here.

I would definitely appreciate the info and pic of that.

Don't get your hopes up - it's very uncomfortable. I only use it for 12-minute timed naps while sitting up as straight as possible. Some afternoons when I am terribly fatigued, I will nap with it. In 12 minutes I don't seem to get into a stage of sleep where significant apneas occur. Sometimes, I will reset the timer and sleep another 12 minutes.

I don't understand how short naps can be so refreshing, but they are.

Here is the collar I use for these naps - https://www.amazon.com/ITA-MED-CC-260-P ... ollar&th=1

ChicagoGranny wrote:I don't understand how short naps can be so refreshing, but they are.

there's actually some science behind the short naps (as well as history):

https://www.fastcompany.com/3023078/lea ... -power-nap

These collars should be OK when using nasal masks, but you need something to support the head when lying:





About the Product:

https://www.amazon.com/ITA-MED-CC-260-P ... ollar&th=1

•Made with low density polyurethane with edges cushioned for comfort.
•Rigid plastic support trimmed with soft foam padding and washable vinyl.
•Height adjustment ensures perfect fit, collar height adjusts from 3-1/2" to 4-1/2
•Velcro-type closure.
•Well ventilated to increase patient comfort

If turning is for ventilation how do you adjust the height?

Thanks for all the creative replies... seems I have some research to do. I'm still leaning towards modifying a solid soft foam collar (the kind you find with velcro straps any drugstore). I'll simply cut off the cover scissors (if there isn't a zipper closure), then use a sharp new drill bit and drill holes galore . After drilling I will hand sew the fabric cover back on. That should get me started at least. The rigid plastic collars don't appeal to me but thanks for the suggestion, avi, plus thanks to all other for their replies.

Sir Nodinoff, I am controlling my mouth leaks with my chinstrap, sort of OK and the weather is cooling. So I'll wait with trying the perforated collar which you're making.

All are ResScan:





Notice: the mouth leaks at 12:00 AM of close to 40 L/Min did not disturb the S9 Autoset from doing its job.

Sir NoddinOff wrote:Thanks for all the creative replies... seems I have some research to do. I'm still leaning towards modifying a solid soft foam collar (the kind you find with velcro straps any drugstore). I'll simply cut off the cover scissors (if there isn't a zipper closure), then use a sharp new drill bit and drill holes galore . After drilling I will hand sew the fabric cover back on. That should get me started at least. The rigid plastic collars don't appeal to me but thanks for the suggestion, avi, plus thanks to all other for their replies.

Foam acts weird when you try to cut it, but a serrated edge helps if you can't get a heated nichrome wire.
I would try a small diameter hole saw with a light touch.
(Of course, a laser cutter would be awesome!)

chunkyfrog wrote:

Sir NoddinOff wrote:I would try a small diameter hole saw with a light touch.
(Of course, a laser cutter would be awesome!)

I would try a punch with a hammer instead of a drill or a saw.

There are hundreds of cervical collar kinds on Amazon. In my opinion it's a waste of time to design more. There are 400 here:

http://www.calibex.com/Supports-Braces- ... 7z5---html

Have you tried any of the cooling gel cervical support types?

Or maybe this?

http://www.necksolutions.com/neck-brace.html#neckbrace



From Link:

"Similar in action like a thermostat, should the temperature within the neck or even the environment raise, the material will absorb the excess heating and helps to create a cooling down feeling. If the temperatures decrease, it will help with warming through liberating formerly held warmth."

avi123 wrote:

chunkyfrog wrote:

Sir NoddinOff wrote:I would try a small diameter hole saw with a light touch.
(Of course, a laser cutter would be awesome!)

I would try a punch with a hammer

in the immortal words of sludge: "I think you should smash yourself upside the head with a 48 ounce ball peen hammer (the big beejeebee)"

Sir Noddinoff, you need to be careful about posting details of cervical collars which might infringe any valid patents of such devices. Especially, if you may plan to sell your products in the future.

Example:

https://www.google.com/patents/USD647624

1.I claim the ornamental design for cervical collar, as shown and described:

OMG! It's about to BLOW
"I ain't cleaning up no fecal matter!"
{{{I wonder who will get blamed for THIS one.}}}

avi123 wrote:Sir Noddinoff, you need to be careful about posting details of cervical collars which might infringe any valid patents of such devices. Especially, if you may plan to sell your products in the future.:

and, on today's installment of "the avi show" patent 'advice'.

Avi... with all due respect for a gentleman who is close to 90 years old, please give more thought to what you post on a message board. If you aren't sure what you are about to post isn't fact, then don't post it. This is not to appease the people who constantly make crude comments to you; it's so that new people who come here won't get misinformation.

{{{{{{LucyHere}}}}}}}


Hi Sir .... is this the kind of 'Holy' Foam you are thinking about?

Sorry that I don't know how to post pictures.
Have y'all posted about these "lavender infused foam before?"

http://www.necksolutions.com/travel-neck-pillows.html

I know these are neck pillows, but they also make cervical collars.
I was just wondering if this was what you were describing?