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Sleepy Head Results

Post by pumbany » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:26 am

I have 2 days of data from sleep head, and I have some questions about it related to pressure and leaks. I don't know why the reports are so different from one day to another.

Day 1 Data:
The first days data has lower pressure. The median pressure was 6.44 and max was 10.6 (The machine is set for a range of 4-11)
There were very few leaks.

Day 2 Data
The 2nd day has higher pressure. The median pressure was 7.46 and max was 11. The pressure stayed much higher than the first night until around 3:30 amd when massive leaks started being displayed. During the leaks the pressure dropped.

I would love to show the reports because I find the results for the two nights confusing.

Is there a way to upload the report into the post so you can see?

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by Sylvia54 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:52 am

pumbany wrote:I have 2 days of data from sleep head, and I have some questions about it related to pressure and leaks. I don't know why the reports are so different from one day to another.

Day 1 Data:
The first days data has lower pressure. The median pressure was 6.44 and max was 10.6 (The machine is set for a range of 4-11)
There were very few leaks.

Day 2 Data
The 2nd day has higher pressure. The median pressure was 7.46 and max was 11. The pressure stayed much higher than the first night until around 3:30 amd when massive leaks started being displayed. During the leaks the pressure dropped.

I would love to show the reports because I find the results for the two nights confusing.

Is there a way to upload the report into the post so you can see?

Hi there, sorry nobody has responded yet.

I am new on the forum and have been on cpap for about 14 wks now, so I don't feel qualified to advise you. I will tell you though that my stats can vary quite a bit from night to night too. I have severe apnea in the supine position and mild on my side. So I think my stats and also how I feel the next day depend on how long I sleep (my main problem is insomnia), which varies from night to night. Also, depends on how I sleep, does of sleep aid I took, how much time spent on my back, how much fragmented sleep, mask leakage, etc. , all this has an affect. But then my sleep cycles are messed up too from years of untreated apnea. You might want to visit your DME where an RT can help you resolve the massive leaks, like maybe your mask isn't the right fit.

I haven't posted any stats using Sleepyhead software but you might find enough instruction by using the search box at the upper left. I think there's another set of instructions for how to do screenshots.

Hopefully somebody else will come along who can give you the links.

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by pumbany » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:01 am

Any advice on my Sleephead report is greatly appreciated. I am not sure why they are so different from one day to another. I sleep on my side unless I turn on my back in the middle of the night. But I don't think I do because every morning I am on my side when I wake up.

These are my 7/10 results from Sleepyhead:

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These are my 7/13 results from Spleepyhead:

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by mummmz » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:08 am

Read through a few of the other posts where Pugsy and others say what they need shown on the SleepyHead reports. I know they will want to see the event flags at least. Do you feel comfortable breathing with the low minimum pressure?

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by Pugsy » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:20 am

See this thread for examples of how we like to see the detailed reports presented.
viewtopic/t103468/Need-help-with-screen-shots.html

Though I doubt that the Events graph will add anything of value in your situation.

The varying pressures that you see...normal variations and to be expected. We simply don't sleep the same each night despite what we might think in terms of position or whatever.
It may or may not be related to sleeping position...it may or may not be related to sleep stage (did you know that it's common to need more pressure in REM stage sleep)...at any rate unless the pressure changes are creating a problem for you for some reason I wouldn't worry about them. It's simply the machine doing its job based on whatever it senses is going on.

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by pumbany » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:33 am

I uploaded the sleepy head report in the format that you suggested.
'any feedback is appreciated.

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:46 am

Pretty much a nice boring report which is good.
Leaks are minimal and well within acceptable limits.

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by pumbany » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:19 am

Thanks for the feedback Pugsy.

I find the sleepy head reports very interesting and never realize how much the results can vary from night to night.

It makes me wonder about the original sleep study, where they hook us up to all those wires. I wonder if the results in the sleep study have as much variation as the results that our cpap machines show? Hypothetically if we went for overnight sleep studies five nights in a row I wonder if the results have big variations from night to night the way that our cpap results do. And if the Real overnight sleep study results do vary widely from night to then we can't rely on the results other than to know that we have sleep apnea. It is possible that the results from the sleep study are not that meningful other than to know that we have sleep apnea.
Or maybe the overnight sleep studies are much more accurate with all the wires they hook us up to.
What is the purpose of hooking us up to the 25 or so wires? I wonder what other information they are collecting that our regular cpap reports are not showing and I wonder about the accuracy of those reports.

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Re: Sleepy Head Results

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:02 am

pumbany wrote:What is the purpose of hooking us up to the 25 or so wires?
I don't know exactly how many goes to what but in the sleep lab they gather data that our home machines simply cannot gather.
Examples...the sticky leads all over the face and head are for EEG to determine sleep status.
The sticky leads on the extremities are for limb movement to see if we thrash around with our arms or legs a lot.
The sticky leads on the chest are for heart rate and rhythm and such....EKG
Some of the other wires will measure respiration effort and others measure air flow and others measure oxygen levels.
You can count on all these data points to be fairly accurate. When leads pop off that is easily seen and noted on the reports.

In terms of night to night results varying...yeah, it's going to happen but when it comes to OSA it's pretty cut and dry if you need the machine or not unless someone scores very low and maybe they didn't get much sleep for some reason.
There are possibly some situations where the OSA may be under reported like myself....My OSA is worse in REM but I wasn't getting much, if any REM, prior to cpap because my OSA is so bad in REM that every time I would transition into REM sleep then the apnea events would come full force and wake me up out of REM sleep. Luckily I had enough REM to see that was happening during my in lab sleep study and we were able to proceed. It doesn't take an enormous amount of time to make the OSA diagnosis but in the case of the diagnosis criteria not being met there needs to be a good amount of sleep through all the stages happen before the results are reported as negative for OSA.

Sleep lab settings aren't perfect...nothing in life ever is but it is what it is and we deal with it.
Everything has pros and cons.

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