TRACHEOTOMY

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by Julie » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:35 am

1. Tracheostomy is widely used and accepted in the UK and Australia.

2. Your last line re travelling is just garbage - based on nothing!

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by D.H. » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:20 am

Julie wrote:1. Tracheostomy is widely used and accepted in the UK and Australia.

2. Your last line re traveling is just garbage - based on nothing!
According ti this article, it is dangerous ===> http://www.simplesleepservices.com/fly- ... eep-apnea/

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by Julie » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:26 am

But that's about UNtreated apnea! And it's from a company trying to sell their stuff, so think it's ok to scare hell out of everyone. Most airlines allow CPAP now in any case - something they don't mention in the article. Their answer is to bring oxygen along!

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by PEF » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:06 pm

As usual, Julie is totally wrong about the reflux, advising people to have unnecessary surgery and telling people to address the "reflux" first. This will not work when any type of sleep apnea is involved because medical science now knows that reflux and sleep apnea go together. You have to address the sleep apnea. Just ask Dr. Steven Park or other experts. There are no medications or surgery available for reflex caused by sleep apnea. I found out the hard way. Since I have been using CPAP, my reflux is almost gone. It was terrible before that. Julie has been told this before, but she continues to give incorrect medical advice.

Oh and you just might want to read Dr. Johnathan Wright's book called "Why Stomach Acid is Good For You" before you let any doctor attempt to treat you for reflux. It could save your life.

As for the poster who wants a tracheotomy, my opinion is that he has severe UARS that was made worse by medical misdiagnosis. I had a lot of the same problems he is describing. I was lucky enough to have a doctor for a husband, who did not allow me to fall prey to other doctor's snake oil and unnecessary surgeries. It was a very long slog through all the medical crap to finally get to CPAP. Getting used to CPAP is very, very difficult when you have severe insomnia, but you just have to work hard at it.

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by Julie » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:11 pm

And you fool, are responding to a 5 mo. old note that has nothing to do with today's posting.

But for the record, just because your reflux is gone now, does not mean anyone else's magically disappeared with Cpap... I suggest you take a poll to check that out!

Do you drink?

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by avi123 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:35 pm

Julie wrote:And you fool, are responding to a 5 mo. old note that has nothing to do with today's posting.

But for the record, just because your reflux is gone now, does not mean anyone else's magically disappeared with Cpap... I suggest you take a poll to check that out!

Do you drink?
Question:

On your Intellipap CPAP do you have a dedicated mask pressure sensor like this:

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by LSAT » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:54 pm

Julie wrote:And you fool, are responding to a 5 mo. old note that has nothing to do with today's posting.

But for the record, just because your reflux is gone now, does not mean anyone else's magically disappeared with Cpap... I suggest you take a poll to check that out!

Do you drink?
Julie...Take a valium and lie down.

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by palerider » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:56 pm

avi123 wrote:
Julie wrote:...
On your Intellipap CPAP do you have a dedicated mask pressure sensor like this:
well, avi's orbit is further from the sun than usual, today.

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by Lucyhere » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:12 pm

PEF wrote:As usual, Julie is totally wrong ...

Yet she still posts the same thing over and over again.
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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by SewTired » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:32 pm

You'd need to see a specialized doctor for this, but a pulmonologist would be a start.

I think what you are thinking of is called a tracheostomy. My late SIL had a tracheostomy because she stopped breathing almost entirely when sleeping, due to adult onset muscular dystrophy. There may be alternatives to this if your muscles work perfectly fine. Keep in mind that it doesn't have to be permanent. They sealed up her tracheostomy about a year later, but she remained on a home ventilator at night. Both of these require an RN, but if your health is deteriorating, it may be applicable with your health coverage. I don't know the actual details of either of these as I was never her caregiver.

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by BlackSpinner » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:43 pm

Lucyhere wrote:
PEF wrote:As usual, Julie is totally wrong ...

Yet she still posts the same thing over and over again.
So do you and it is even worse trash. At least she is not a vindictive little twit.

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:44 pm

Just googled both.
Everyone is right--kind of.
Tracheotomy is the surgical procedure which creates a tracheostomy.
You have the first one once; the second is there forever.

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by yaconsult » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:08 pm

A trach can work if someone has no other choice. They are much less common/necessary these days, but if it's the only thing that will work due to other issues, it should be considered.

They install the valve in the lower neck. During the daytime, a cover is kept screwed over the tube to seal it. This allow you to talk, drink, and eat normally. At night when you go to bed, you remove the cover from the tube and you will breath though that opening all night bypassing the part of the throat that becomes blocked in people with sleep apnea. You can't speak while the port is open, but you can always use your fingers to block the port temporarily.

I had a trach for other reasons and couldn't wait to get rid of it. Back at my first sleep evaluation many years ago, the doctor did not think that cpap would be effective due to a very small throat opening and said the trach would be a better option, she thought. I decided to try the cpap first and have been on it ever since.

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by D.H. » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:04 pm

Julie wrote:But that's about UNtreated apnea! And it's from a company trying to sell their stuff, so think it's ok to scare hell out of everyone. Most airlines allow CPAP now in any case - something they don't mention in the article. Their answer is to bring oxygen along!
Untreated Sleep Apnea is at issue, so it's to the point. The original poster is considering drastic surgery due to his inability to treat the condition with CPAP or anything else.

As far as the company trying to scare people, all I can say is that there's plenty to be scared of, so the company really doesn't need to make stuff up!

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Re: TRACHEOTOMY

Post by palerider » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:14 pm

D.H. wrote:
Julie wrote:But that's about UNtreated apnea! And it's from a company trying to sell their stuff, so think it's ok to scare hell out of everyone. Most airlines allow CPAP now in any case - something they don't mention in the article. Their answer is to bring oxygen along!
Untreated Sleep Apnea is at issue, so it's to the point. The original poster is considering drastic surgery due to his inability to treat the condition with CPAP or anything else.

As far as the company trying to scare people, all I can say is that there's plenty to be scared of, so the company really doesn't need to make stuff up!
it's just precious that you believe everything you read on the intertubes.

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