Really Worried About CPAP AHI? New To CPAP

Hawthorne wrote:I believe that, as robysue said, it should make NO difference, "once you are correctly titrated and using the appropriate pressure"..

your beliefs are unfounded.

it's a fact that differing sleep positions require different pressures. as do different sleep phases.

some people have negligible apnea when side or stomach sleeping and severe apnea when back sleeping, to the point of not even needing a cpap when on their sides/stomach.

what's the "appropriate pressure" there?

Sorry, but I think my beliefs are sound and founded on experience and research. Did you tell robysue her belief are unfounded as well?
Way back - before you were ever on the board, Rested Gal and Ozij said the same thing as I said. They were 2 of the most knowledgeable, helpful and respected people ever to post on this board.

Hawthorne wrote:Sorry, but I think my beliefs are sound and founded on experience and research. Did you tell robysue her belief are unfounded as well?
Way back - before you were ever on the board, Rested Gal and Ozij said the same thing as I said. They were 2 of the most knowledgeable, helpful and respected people ever to post on this board.

you're welcome to your beliefs, no matter how much they don't fit facts.

people's needs vary throughout the night, no matter what you want to believe.

some people's needs vary much more than others, and making blanket statements, such as you do that everyone is suited by the same thing, isn't going to help anybody.

ask pugsy what she thinks about a single, 'proper titrated' pressure, or, for that matter, RobySue, who relies on a AUTO bilevel machine, because her "proper pressure" as you like to put it, that would prevent all her apneas, gives her horrible aerophagia and pain.

again, you're welcome to your beliefs, just as long as other people realize that your beliefs don't fit into everybody's reality.

I guess you don't read my posts very carefully (I know you don't), I did say I used an auto and had it set at a range of 11 to 14 cm. I did not say I used a single pressure. I did say that any events I had, which are few, occurred mostly at 11cm. People's needs do vary throughout the night no matter what position they sleep in. That's why I use an auto. I get aerophagia if I don't use an auto and have a narrow pressure range.
You always find a reason to challenge my posts but you don't read them carefully. In your opinion, my posts are wrong, no matter. I remember the great debate with you over the difference in the headgear size for the P10, among others. People like you are the reason I rarely post on this forum anymore. If you don't read posts carefully enough you won't realize what people are really saying.

Hawthorne wrote: In your opinion, my posts are wrong, no matter.

you honestly have no idea what my opinion is. and if you mean things differently than what you said, who's fault is that?

the point started out with your assertion that sleep position has nothing to do with pressure needs,

I put no stock whatsoever in the notion that sleep positions cause more events.

and then winged off into something different.

As robysue said, if you have been titrated properly, you should be able to get good cpap therapy no matter how you sleep - back, side, stomach.

and THEN you pointed out how you have no personal knowledge whatsoever about sleep position affecting apnea.

I have been on cpap for 14+ year and have slept on my back EVERY night for ALL of those 14+ years.

what of that makes you qualified to weigh in on the subject?

I have no idea what you are trying to say! Yes, I said those things and I meant them! You are twisting what I said! I'm done!

Hawthorne wrote:I have no idea what you are trying to say! Yes, I said those things and I meant them! You are twisting what I said! I'm done!

it's always amusing when someone quotes another person, and then that person says "You are twisting what I said"...

the *point* is that you're offering your firm belief that position makes no difference, basically arguing with Julie, while affirming that you have absolutely no experience in the matter... so, you've got an *opinion*... and you're welcome to it.

but you should be prepared for others to *disagree* with your opinion.

perhaps you'd be happier over on apneaboard, where feelings are more important than facts, and people, if they disagree with you at all, will do so gingerly and with utmost care, lest they hurt your feelings.

You just continue to be nasty on this board. Nothing changes here. There have been people like you here since I joined. I will not be going to any other cpap board. I do, however, fully understand why a lot of good,helpful people no longer post here. I also fully understand why Pugsy left and now limits her participation.

Hawthorne wrote:You just continue to be nasty on this board. Nothing changes here. There have been people like you here since I joined. I will not be going to any other cpap board. I do, however, fully understand why a lot of good,helpful people no longer post here. I also fully understand why Pugsy left and now limits her participation.

as always, ma'am, you're welcome to your opinions, no matter how specious they are

hope you have a grand evening

it's also amusing, people that harp about things, but then say they're just going to stay, rather than going to a kinder, gentler place... I s'pose stewing in their own juices is something comforting to them. gives 'em something to bitch about...

Julie wrote:But it does make a difference - read her study results. Of course once you're getting consistently good Cpap results you can experiment with positions, but for many people it makes a lot of difference depending on other factors.

It makes a difference WITHOUT cpap. But with cpap titrated for supine sleeping, it should be fine. That is why many people have auto ranges. The machine gives me 11-12 most of the night, but will spike up to 17 when I roll onto my back. Without cpap, my supine ahi is 79. With cpap, it is less than 1, and that includes supine sleeping. The machine takes care of it.

A good doctor will titrate for worst case scenario. if the difference between best and worst is large enough, then a range should be prescribed.

If the cpap is not set to handle supine sleeping, then the person is stuck having bad sleep still, or being forced to sleep in a position that may not be comfortable, and that, too, can cause sleep problems. It is far better to titrate for supine sleeping and let the person sleep any way they want.