Can I skip some days?

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:49 am

Choosing to skip a night seems to me like choosing to endure a night of torture and a miserable day after;
Just for a tiny bit of extra room in the camper/car, etc.
If you are driving at all, you put lives at risk--can you live with that?
If so, go for it; but please share your itinerary. I want to be someplace else.

bluetrout · Post by **bluetrout** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:08 am

Sorry to say but some of these replies are getting absurd in my case. The "drunk driving" for example. My only sign of apnea: atrial flutter. No snoring, not even close to over weight. Not drowsy while driving. Not depressed, not "whiney". Me thinks that people are expressing their own problems here. Thanks for the tips. I'm signing off.

Gasper62 · Post by **Gasper62** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:51 am

bluetrout wrote:Sorry to say but some of these replies are getting absurd in my case. The "drunk driving" for example. My only sign of apnea: atrial flutter. No snoring, not even close to over weight. Not drowsy while driving. Not depressed, not "whiney". Me thinks that people are expressing their own problems here. Thanks for the tips. I'm signing off.

Hey, you asked, you got answers ....like em or not. If your priority is to sleep in a trailer instead of continuing your therapy, uninterrupted, just do it. Dispute the vehicular danger all you want........ https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=apnea+causes+crash

BlackSpinner · Post by **BlackSpinner** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:12 pm

bluetrout wrote:Sorry to say but some of these replies are getting absurd in my case. The "drunk driving" for example. My only sign of apnea: atrial flutter. No snoring, not even close to over weight. Not drowsy while driving. Not depressed, not "whiney". Me thinks that people are expressing their own problems here. Thanks for the tips. I'm signing off.

A sign of sleep deprivation is the total denial of the effect of sleep deprivation and the inability to make accurate judgment calls.

If you were a truck driver you would lose your license if you didn't use your cpap. In the UK and some parts of Canada you would lose your license no matter what you drove if you didn't use your cpap.

KayakKid · Post by **KayakKid** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:23 pm

bluetrout wrote:Sorry to say but some of these replies are getting absurd in my case. The "drunk driving" for example. My only sign of apnea: atrial flutter. No snoring, not even close to over weight. Not drowsy while driving. Not depressed, not "whiney". Me thinks that people are expressing their own problems here. Thanks for the tips. I'm signing off.

Wow!! I'm brand new here too but in just one day many members have given me detailed answers to my questions. You've got to want to help yourself and there seems to be a lot of folks on here willing to help you on your journey. You asked, they answered.

Lucyhere · Post by **Lucyhere** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:19 pm

bluetrout wrote:Sorry to say but some of these replies are getting absurd in my case. The "drunk driving" for example. My only sign of apnea: atrial flutter. No snoring, not even close to over weight. Not drowsy while driving. Not depressed, not "whiney". Me thinks that people are expressing their own problems here. Thanks for the tips. I'm signing off.

Whether to use the mask or not (imo) depends on what other health issues you have. Thankfully, I don't have other health issues. There are a number of times that I've gone on vacation for a week, sometimes more, and have not dragged the machine along. I felt just fine. You know if not using your machine is a good idea or it isn't. No one else on the "internet" knows you and yes, I agree, people are expressing their own views and problems. Again, this is the internet...

jnk... · Post by **jnk...** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:26 pm

bluetrout wrote:Sorry to say but some of these replies are getting absurd in my case. The "drunk driving" for example. My only sign of apnea: atrial flutter. No snoring, not even close to over weight. Not drowsy while driving. Not depressed, not "whiney". Me thinks that people are expressing their own problems here. Thanks for the tips. I'm signing off.

I agree some answers are blunt and border on over-the-top, but, yes, people here DO express their own problems. Many here are CPAP evangelists who specialize in shock treatment for deniers. In their experience, they may be unaware of the people whose condition might NOT worsen with a few nights/days without treatment.

But don't give up on the place. Laugh off the replies that don't apply to your specific situation. Some of the suggestions and observations you read in your thread or in others' threads may come in handy for you.

Consider this place an intergalactic bar that serves ALL kinds. Not so much a tea room for balancing breakable dishes on your knee. It takes some getting used to, but a little time here once in a while can pay off in the long run.

Good question. And if one out of ten replies gave you food for thought, that average ain't so bad for the internet, really. Other OSA forums would have slapped your hand for asking the question and revoked privileges for anyone who implied doctors aren't gods and that you have free will and the legal right to make your own decisions.

But if this place ain't the place for you, enjoy your cup of tea. You will always be welcome here when you find yourself itching for a lightsaber fight.

Lucyhere · Post by **Lucyhere** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:29 pm

jnk... wrote:
bluetrout wrote:Sorry to say but some of these replies are getting absurd in my case. The "drunk driving" for example. My only sign of apnea: atrial flutter. No snoring, not even close to over weight. Not drowsy while driving. Not depressed, not "whiney". Me thinks that people are expressing their own problems here. Thanks for the tips. I'm signing off.
I agree some answers are blunt and border on over-the-top, but, yes, people here DO express their own problems. Many here are CPAP evangelists who specialize in shock treatment for deniers. In their experience, they may be unaware of the people whose condition might NOT worsen with a few nights/days without treatment.

But don't give up on the place. Laugh off the replies that don't apply to your specific situation. Some of the suggestions and observations you read in your thread or in others' threads may come in handy for you.

Consider this place an intergalactic bar that serves ALL kinds. Not so much a tea room for balancing breakable dishes on your knee. It takes some getting used to, but a little time here once in a while can pay off in the long run.

Good question. And if one out of ten replies gave you food for thought, that average ain't so bad for the internet, really. Other OSA forums would have slapped your hand for asking the question and revoked privileges for anyone who implied doctors aren't gods and that you have free will and the legal right to make your own decisions.

But if this place ain't the place for you, enjoy your cup of tea. You will always be welcome here when you find yourself itching for a light-sabre fight.

What a terrific post

+1000

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:09 pm

We all were given a dose of Free Will, some of us also got Common Sense to go along with it. From many of of the posts here, more people got the Free Will, but ran away before the Common Sense was given out.

Don't worry Natural Selection, is slow, many times too slow, but in the end it works. The problem breeding usually takes place first. Jim

Noctuary · Post by **Noctuary** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:54 pm

49er wrote:
Noctuary wrote:I skip days now here and there; it makes no difference to me. Whether I use the gold standard or not, I will without doubt wake up feeling tired, sometimes terribly. Go for it.
Noctuary,

I understand how you feel about pap therapy and I pretty much feel the same way.

However, I don't feel it is the place of forum members to tell someone to stop using pap therapy without checking with their doctor. Serious consequences may or may not result but I don't think that is a chance we want to take.

And just you know, as much as I hate it, I continue to use it until I switch to an alternative method. As unbearable as I find it to be, I fear great health consequences from not using it.

So why didn't anyone above tell the poster to check with his doctor?

Violet West · Post by **Violet West** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:58 pm

bluetrout wrote: Guess I'm at the stage of denial where I want this to be just a minor glitch allowing me to return to the simplicity of my former habits. Oh well. Glad I got diagnosed and that there is a solution no matter what the learning curve. Thanks again for the advice.

I think this is the heart of the matter. Not just denial, but changing your lifestyle to accommodate your new reality. If it's too much of a hassle to use the therapy while camping in a remote location . . . you might have to change your camping location or vacation style. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

Some of the posters here can be pretty harsh, I notice, but as a long time veteran of 'Net boards, that's just the way it is sometimes. Maybe it's just sleep deprivation.

bluetrout · Post by **bluetrout** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:36 pm

Once again...thanks. I'll stick around for awhile. A special thanks to Lucyhere and jnk. I do have a good deal to learn. I didn't expect some of the over-the-top responses but I should have. I'm also on a music forum and the stuff there can turn into the weird and wacky pretty quickly....and it doesn't bother me. Gotta do the same here. Part of my struggle with all this is that I had so few symptoms. It was only suggested I take a sleep test as a precaution. I never snored, always got a good night's sleep (I thought), never awoke with a head ache or irritability. Never drowsy during the day or while driving. Early evenings I noticed increased tiredness reading but that was it. Also my education about APNEA has been minimal mainly due to this time between doctors. I've only had one doc visit with not much time to visit at that and I wouldn't have known what questions to ask at that point anyway. So here I go...on a ride I never knew existed a few weeks ago. I do want to say that from the first night using the CPAP my energy level has been amazing. That is something I never expected.

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:46 pm

I do understand some of what you've gone through - I had only odd symptoms at best, would never have known I had a problem except for my ex, who told me I quit breathing, and later on I got minor wake-up headaches and vivid dreams, but never felt sleepy or any of that.

You didn't really give us much info in that regard initially, so we had no idea that you didn't drive sleepy, etc... and so gave you stock responses. I'm sure they weren't meant to be anything more than wake-up calls against denial.

bluetrout · Post by **bluetrout** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:56 pm

Thanks Julie. My apologies to any and all well-meaning posters. Just another newbie here......and I'm glad this forum is here. PS- my wife also mentioned that I quit breathing. It spooked her. I just laughed it off.

robysue · Post by **robysue** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:06 pm

bluetrout wrote:I do want to say that from the first night using the CPAP my energy level has been amazing. That is something I never expected.

It's great that you are a CPAP "fish", meaning that you've taken to CPAP like a fish to water. Some of us struggle for months before we start to see our energy levels increase.

To get back on topic: If you wind up skipping the CPAP for 14 days in a row, you're going to find that your current "amazing" energy level is going to quickly decrease back down to what your pre-CPAP level was. If you want to have enough energy to really enjoy that two week trip, you should work on finding a way to take the CPAP with you and use every night.

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