newbie with a # of questions

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:51 pm

Makes NO sense at all! Newbies, until they've been here x 3 mos, don't have the ability to delete anyone's post for spam, and by that time they know better (or should) than deleting one that references Cpap.com of all things... I'm sorry, but most of what you posted, apart from your OPs, make no sense at all... I have no idea what you're talking about re not being able to post, not being able to do it unless you took something out (whatever it was), etc. etc. NO SENSE AT ALL! There are NO mods! NO one watching what you write! No one CARES by now anyhow!

But you know, it would be nice if you'd have acknowledged e.g. my response to your OP, member or not, because I gave a damn about helping someone... as did others who posted then too, but all you did was (finally) return to give us a hard time over crap, none of which follows anything any of us have ever had or seen happen on this forum at all... in years of being here, so I am now going to consider you a troll. Happy life.

dawoodsman · Post by **dawoodsman** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:12 pm

julie I actually did thank you for your post--twice--in very long posts I TRIED to make but were denied--twice. But thank you again.

I don't know how I can be any more clear, but will try.

For guests--This site treats EVERY internet address as a problem and will not allow any post to go through with an internet address in the body of the post--including the address of the site that supports this forum! So When I tried to mention the site that runs this forum in my posts, my post was denied. Remember when i said members may not have that problem?--well you probably don't. As a guest--and every guest--that is a problem. There are other issues too. Nothing major, but I'm sure they are enough to lead to some initial guests saying "why bother".

One thing I don't have is a lot of patience for posts that take me a long type being denied again and again. I admit to that. You can't copy and past them either, as a guest that is another thing that is not allowed--try it and your post will be denied. Thanks for your help again it was useful.

QueSera · Post by **QueSera** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:19 pm

Definitely look online for videos about mask fitting. I also saw somewhere that when you have a leak - say, out the side of your mask against your cheek - you can try running your finger over the edge of the mask right there and that may reseat it. Also, I would put my Amara View on with my mouth slightly open, fit it to my face and adjust the straps, then close my mouth. That seemed to give it a little play. Good mask, but I couldnt stand the eye-level leaks either.

Last thought: unless you know you are seriously a mouth-breather, you might want to try a Dreamwear. It is the only mask I've tried that doesn't leak at all, and it's very comfortable. Best of all, tho, is that the hose attachment and vents are on top of your head, so there's never air blowing anywhere near your eyes.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:32 pm

Again, your accusations have no basis in fact.
Members of the forum can post links quite easily.
http://www.medgadget.com/
This ability is withheld from guests because of spam.
I can only presume that you wish to post links to spam.
No, thank you.

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:33 pm

Aha... something now does make sense! Addresses should not be in anyone's posts because of the danger to THEM of future stuff they don't want, of nasties looking for them in person, or for money, etc.... many people here are 'older', and not computer knowledgable, so we try to protect them and discourage personal things from being shown on the forum (PMs are another story and we all have made friends there, exchanged #'s, etc. and even in some cases have met), but until you're a member, no such possibility exists. If only you'd have been clear about the real reason - an addy - instead of whatever it was you said earlier.

Would you like to start over? Join up? Or not, but as a guest you can still ask for advice and post, etc... just don't try to sell anything, etc. etc.

yaconsult · Post by **yaconsult** » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:48 pm

It's quite common for forum software to not allow links to be posted by unregistered users. Why? Because posters of spam are everywhere and litter sites that don't require registration with stupid posts about MLM schemes, viagra, etc!

This site does not spam its users. If you want the full use of all of the forum's features, you have to register. You can use phony information to register - that's up to you - but you have to register to access the full functionality. The software that this forum runs on was not written specifically for this forum. It is a very widely used free/opensource software package.

If you don't want to register and want to have the limitations imposed on unregistered posters - that's fine too.

Oh, and just a little tip - open a text editor and compose your post there and save it to a file. Then, if it doesn't post for any reason, you haven't lost anything and can just open the file and copy it again.

zoocrewphoto · Post by **zoocrewphoto** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:38 am

dawoodsman wrote:I noted that the eye shields are no longer available on site that shall not be named--at least by guests. Checked with an eye doc and they have some reservations about those. Suggest some eye ointment instead. Anyone with experience going that route? I may not need to, might end up with a different mask.

I did get my leaks mostly managed, and I found out some of what I thought were leaks was just air blowing through the vent holes. Still waking up after 2 1/2 to 5 hours and not able to fall right back asleep for awhile (if at all) so wil lkeep trying to find something that works. Thanks for those that helped.

With a full face mask, if it is leaking into your eyes, it is probably set a tad too high on your face. I used to have this problem when I first started, and people here told me to set it a little lower, and it fit much better. Of course, if the mask is too large, or the wrong one, you will still need to find the right mask.

My mom used to have trouble with leaking into her eyes. She wore swim googles at night until she mastered the leak problem. Not the best longterm solution, but might help until you can get the right maks fitting well.

robysue · Post by **robysue** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:33 am

dawoodsman wrote:julie I actually did thank you for your post--twice--in very long posts I TRIED to make but were denied--twice. But thank you again.

Captcha problems by chance? That can get very irritating after a while. I've learned to copy the contents of my longest posts before hitting "preview" or "submit"

For guests--This site treats EVERY internet address as a problem and will not allow any post to go through with an internet address in the body of the post--including the address of the site that supports this forum! So When I tried to mention the site that runs this forum in my posts, my post was denied. Remember when i said members may not have that problem?--well you probably don't. As a guest--and every guest--that is a problem. There are other issues too. Nothing major, but I'm sure they are enough to lead to some initial guests saying "why bother".

So why not register and login?

You know many, many health-related forums simply won't allow posts from non-members. In particular, this is the only cpap related forum that I know of that allows posts from unregistered guests. The others require that you register and be logged in before posting.

One thing I don't have is a lot of patience for posts that take me a long type being denied again and again. I admit to that. You can't copy and past them either, as a guest that is another thing that is not allowed--try it and your post will be denied. Thanks for your help again it was useful.

Yep. That's the damned Captcha check. It does create problems, and it can create problems for members as well as guests.

When I'm writing a very long post, I try to remember to do a "control-A, control-C" to select and copy all of my text before hitting "Preview" or "Submit". That way if the Captcha monster eats my post, I don't have to start over. A simple "control-V" pastes my text back in the window for me to try, try again.

I understand that the Captcha tool is designed to prevent spambots. But it does seem to only eat my longest, most thoughtful posts---ones that are far longer than any spambot would write.

Still, the owners of the site have enabled Captcha checking, and they've got the right to do so. You learn to live with it after a while.

dawoodsman · Post by **dawoodsman** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:40 am

Not sure if we have the same understanding of what "captcha" means RobySue. I understand it to be what is usually called the "confirmation code"--the letter and number combo you see that you have to type in correctly before you can post.

That's a pain in the backside but understandable, esp. for guests. I have no problem with it. What is a problem is when that does NOT show up in every window. You can type a very long response--as I tried to on several occasions--with no captcha combo showing and thus no way to enter it. Then when you hit submit, the post is denied--because you didn't enter the "captcah" letter/number combo--even though it WAS NOT THERE TO ENTER IN THE FIRST PLACE.

So here's where I think we really differ. At that point you just typed a long post that is denied. You don't want to type the whole thing again right? So you and I appear to do the same thing. Copy the text in your post and just try to re-enter it.

You seem to think that works. It probably does for members. It does not for guests. The system suspects nefarious intent and denies the post.

In the meantime while you figure that out--you start to see members who are not moderated--from what I am told there is no moderator--following you around to different threads.

Why would someone want to join up with that? I've seen that before on web boards--no thank you not for me. Esp. when you can occasionally join and use a different name as a guest and escape the bashing followers. Or use the other forum.

robysue · Post by **robysue** » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:02 am

dawoodsman wrote:Not sure if we have the same understanding of what "captcha" means RobySue. I understand it to be what is usually called the "confirmation code"--the letter and number combo you see that you have to type in correctly before you can post.

That's exactly what I mean by Captcha.

That's a pain in the backside but understandable, esp. for guests. I have no problem with it. What is a problem is when that does NOT show up in every window. You can type a very long response--as I tried to on several occasions--with no captcha combo showing and thus no way to enter it. Then when you hit submit, the post is denied--because you didn't enter the "captcah" letter/number combo--even though it WAS NOT THERE TO ENTER IN THE FIRST PLACE.

It happens to registered users who are logged in as well. I don't know exactly how the Captcha is set up on this site, but from my own experience, it flags long posts a lot more frequently than short ones.

So here's where I think we really differ. At that point you just typed a long post that is denied. You don't want to type the whole thing again right? So you and I appear to do the same thing. Copy the text in your post and just try to re-enter it.

You seem to think that works. It probably does for members. It does not for guests. The system suspects nefarious intent and denies the post.

So why don't you register and log in? Again, this is the only CPAP related forum that I know of that allows unregistered guests to post. So if you are having trouble posting as a guest, why don't you register?

In the meantime while you figure that out--you start to see members who are not moderated--from what I am told there is no moderator--following you around to different threads.

This is indeed an totally unmoderated forum. If you want a moderated forum, I suggest that you wander over to apneaboard.com. Of course, over there you must be registered and logged in before you can make even one post. And there are some pretty strict rules on brand new users. Still it's a good forum.

Why would someone want to join up with that? I've seen that before on web boards--no thank you not for me. Esp. when you can occasionally join and use a different name as a guest and escape the bashing followers. Or use the other forum.

The forum is what it is. As is every other internet forum. You can either put up with the quirks or find a different forum.

But as I said before, this is the only cpap-related forum that I know of that allows unregistered guests to post to the forum. If you don't want to register, you have to put up with the quirks of this forum and continue to post as an unregistered guest. If you don't want to put up with the quirks of this forum, then your best choice is to register over at apneaboard.com. The Captcha checking over there doesn't seem to eat as many posts as it does here.

dawoodsman · Post by **dawoodsman** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:40 am

robysue wrote:
dawoodsman wrote:Not sure if we have the same understanding of what "captcha" means RobySue. I understand it to be what is usually called the "confirmation code"--the letter and number combo you see that you have to type in correctly before you can post.
That's exactly what I mean by Captcha.

That's a pain in the backside but understandable, esp. for guests. I have no problem with it. What is a problem is when that does NOT show up in every window. You can type a very long response--as I tried to on several occasions--with no captcha combo showing and thus no way to enter it. Then when you hit submit, the post is denied--because you didn't enter the "captcah" letter/number combo--even though it WAS NOT THERE TO ENTER IN THE FIRST PLACE.
It happens to registered users who are logged in as well. I don't know exactly how the Captcha is set up on this site, but from my own experience, it flags long posts a lot more frequently than short ones.

So here's where I think we really differ. At that point you just typed a long post that is denied. You don't want to type the whole thing again right? So you and I appear to do the same thing. Copy the text in your post and just try to re-enter it.

You seem to think that works. It probably does for members. It does not for guests. The system suspects nefarious intent and denies the post.
So why don't you register and log in? [u]Seems I am a little put off by others (not you) with their "join or suffer our harassment" responses![/u] Again, this is the only CPAP related forum that I know of that allows unregistered guests to post. So if you are having trouble posting as a guest, why don't you register?

In the meantime while you figure that out--you start to see members who are not moderated--from what I am told there is no moderator--following you around to different threads.
This is indeed an totally unmoderated forum. If you want a moderated forum, I suggest that you wander over to HAD TO DELETE THIS URL BECAUSE THE SOFTWARE WOULD NOT ACCEPT IT Of course, over there you must be registered and logged in before you can make even one post. And there are some pretty strict rules on brand new users. Still it's a good forum. I agree.

Why would someone want to join up with that? I've seen that before on web boards--no thank you not for me. Esp. when you can occasionally join and use a different name as a guest and escape the bashing followers. Or use the other forum.
The forum is what it is. As is every other internet forum. You can either put up with the quirks or find a different forum.

But as I said before, this is the only cpap-related forum that I know of that allows unregistered guests to post to the forum. If you don't want to register, you have to put up with the quirks of this forum and continue to post as an unregistered guest. If you don't want to put up with the quirks of this forum, then your best choice is to register over atHAD TO DELETE THIS AS THE SOFTWARE WILL NOT ACCEPT IT. The Captcha checking over there doesn't seem to eat as many posts as it does here.

Might be just me, but if I am a board designer who wants to protect the board I'd want to make sure the confirmation code works for every guest. Having it show up at times and not at others--and denying posts by guests when it's not even there on the screen to enter--would not be something I'd want to see.

Dawoodsman · Post by **Dawoodsman** » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:47 am

If anyone is interested in avoiding all these issues and drama, If no changes are made to the system I'd suggest the following be made clear to every guest poster.

1) Tell them Guest posting is highly limited.

2) Tell them they can't reply to an existing post in a thread, they can only start a new thread.

3) Tell them that no urls--even the url of th site that sponsors this board--can be placed in their threads.

4) Tell them under no circumstances can they copy and past any text of any kind into a post.

5) Tell them to keep their posts down to just a few sentences. Long posts may be denied.

Or might actually be easier not to allow guest posts at all?

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