Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by MrGrumpy » Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:37 pm

a weight gain that severe is nothing to be proud of
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BlackSpinner wrote:And I who was only a few pounds over weight when I started have put on at least 30 lbs over the last few years and there have been NO CHANGE in my required pressure.
In the over 10 years since I started XPAP, my weight has went up over 130 lbs, my pressure remained the same 14.5 cm..... Jim
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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by ericore » Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:38 pm

I will posit to you john that it's not so much weight loss that's important rather it's BMI.
You want as much as possible to aim for a perfect BMI.
If weight gain introduced sleep apnea, and you hit an excellent BMI, I believe you will in the least drastically reduce the number of apnea per hours which means increased sleep quality.
I have noticed cardio make a big difference for me in terms of sleep improvement, mental alertless and endurance.
If you've had sleep apnea all your life or its central apnea than the prospects are orders of magnitude less good.
Congradulations, with losing 28 lbs, keep at a it.
Remember, the thinner you are the less you want to eat

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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by Goofproof » Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:53 pm

MrGrumpy wrote:a weight gain that severe is nothing to be proud of
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BlackSpinner wrote:And I who was only a few pounds over weight when I started have put on at least 30 lbs over the last few years and there have been NO CHANGE in my required pressure.
In the over 10 years since I started XPAP, my weight has went up over 130 lbs, my pressure remained the same 14.5 cm..... Jim
If you had a "Heart", maybe you could loan me the 65% to replace the non-functioning part of mine which don't allow me to move, or burn fuel. I know your heart isn't big enough for that. I give thanks I don't need a brain transplant, I know you couldn't be a donor, they don't harvest defective parts. Jim
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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by palerider » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:13 pm

ericore wrote:You want as much as possible to aim for a perfect BMI.
BMI is the stupid person's measure of health.

can you figure out why?

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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by Julie » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:29 pm

The medical establishment completely discounted BMI as being a good way to measure fitness or fat this week. You need to keep up to date on your research.
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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by BlackSpinner » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:33 pm

MrGrumpy wrote:a weight gain that severe is nothing to be proud of
I was doing caregiving and then palliative care for my mother for 4 years. The twenty minutes of walking the dog daily and eating the left overs of the 3 different diets I was cooking for plus the stress eating accounts for all of that. When I can get my asthma under control and my arthritis in my hips under control and the ice is gone in May I will try to lose the weight.

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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by Teresalf » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:42 pm

My daughter lost a large amount of weight and no longer has sleep apnea as proven by a second sleep study.
I did not start to have symptoms of OSA until I gained weight (40pds) a few years ago, so I'm hoping losing weight may help decrease or eliminate my sleep apnea.

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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by MrGrumpy » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:52 pm

Sorry to hear of your heart problem. In my bariatric weight loss program, they medically supervised me on a 1500 to 1600 calorie a day diet. And I lost 87 lbs. You can go way lower than you think you can on the calories a day thing, as long as its medically supervised and necessary.

I did observe one poor woman who had to be brought into the outpatient facility where I go via EMS. She was so overweight, beyond morbid obesity. Literally rolls of fat, she could not move and had to be wheeled in on a stretcher and rolled into the facility. Like you see on these TV medical shows, "600 lb man or woman" kind of deal. Very sad. And its also scary, because when you think about it, if you can get up to 300 lbs, IMO, you have the ability to hit 500 or 600 someday. I was up to 258.

Even a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step...

Even if you cannot exercise, you can restrict caloric intake like crazy. Drastic weight loss IS possible.
Goofproof wrote:
MrGrumpy wrote:a weight gain that severe is nothing to be proud of
Goofproof wrote:
BlackSpinner wrote:
If you had a "Heart", maybe you could loan me the 65% to replace the non-functioning part of mine which don't allow me to move, or burn fuel. I know your heart isn't big enough for that. I give thanks I don't need a brain transplant, I know you couldn't be a donor, they don't harvest defective parts. Jim
Id be dead by now if I didn't use my CPAP gear every night.

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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by MrGrumpy » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:59 pm

The medical establishment has not gotten rid of the BMI as a good measure of fitness or fat. I doubt there are many people on this forum besides myself who even know what being fit feels like, to be honest.

Almost thirty years ago, I was a beach lifeguard. Now Im in a bariatric weight loss program supervised by bariatric specialists and dieticians. Who would have thunk it way back then? That lean, mean, super fit dude on the beach lifeguarding with the dark tan ended up a fat, lard ass tied to a CPAP! Thats me.

BMI is a good general, I say general assessor of health. You plug in your height/weight with your age and your sex and it tells you whether or not youre a lardass or not. The odds are, unless you happen to be a bodybuilder and have heavy dense muscles making you artificially heavy for your height, your BMI score will let you and your doctor know whether youre a lard butt or not.

Sorry, I call a spade a spade and I dont have a problem with the BMI. Ive used the tool to good effect over the years. I use it to aim for weight goals and tell my doctors supervising my weight loss, "my goal is to get out of the obesity category of the BMI chart." And I did it this past Fall. Setting goals like that helps me. I like scores and stuff like that, times, scores, whatever.
Julie wrote:The medical establishment completely discounted BMI as being a good way to measure fitness or fat this week! You need to keep up to date on your research.
Id be dead by now if I didn't use my CPAP gear every night.


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Re: Can loss of weight cure sleep apnea

Post by Arlene1963 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:02 am

Lots more research needs to be done to figure out why only a relatively small percentage of the population develops OSA (when you look at statistics for weight .... the vast majority of folks in first world countries are overweight or obese these days and yet the majority do not develop OSA)

OSA is a relatively new disease in terms of how long doctors have been aware of it, and how long it has been treated.

The link between weight and OSA reminds me of the link between dietary cholesterol and heart disease in the 1980s-1990s, which has all but been disproved of late.

Sometimes there seems to be a connection but it is complex and not all that straight forward, and doctors can just get it wrong.

I know that the poster asking the question is male, but for women, I strongly suspect that during and after menopause for those of us diagnosed with OSA, the prime reason would be hormonal changes, not weight. (I weigh much less now than I did 10 years ago at 42)

Another fascinating possibility I read about is this ...What if insulin resistance or a metabolic syndrome triggers OSA, and creates a vicious cycle of more weight gain and increased insulin resistance ... By only addressing the weight issue you never really address the metabolic cause.

So many unknowns, sometimes it feels we are guinea pigs when diagnosed with OSA!