How long does a CPAP machine last?

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Re: How long does a CPAP machine last?

Post by britinjapan » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:15 pm

Thanks for those views. I let the machine drop when I was on holiday, and maybe its my feeling something has changed, but I do feel that when I wake up there was more `interaction` with the machine on breathing, recently its a bit unresponsive. Maybe its another factor. I feel that I was breathing in and out more interactively in the past, but recently its like the machine is not pushing in and out air as I wake up. But perhaps thats some other issue....It certainly work fine on start up, though there have been a few issues with the power and switches, so maybe there could have been some damage of sorts from the fall?

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Re: How long does a CPAP machine last?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:28 pm

highstick wrote:
Perfect time for me to ask a question I've had...Does it matter if I turn my Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset off each morning after I get up? I have not been because it shuts down automatically, but if that is impacting "run hours", maybe I should be????
Resmed machines do for a period of time after you have removed the mask. It runs at a low level pressure for about 30 to 45 minutes and that time does count on the run hours but not therapy hours.
That time will explain any differences between therapy hours you may see reported and the run hours assuming you got the machine totally new with zero hours on it.
Over time the difference between run hours and therapy hours will grow as those 30 to 45 minutes keep adding up.
This time is referred to as "cool down" time and is supposed to be good for drying out the hose I suppose if there is any moisture in the hose leftover from the humidified air going through the hose. At least I think that is the official marketed use.

It does count as machine run hours though...30 minutes for 365 nights would amount to 182.5 over the course of a year...so would be a little more if it runs for 45 minutes (I never timed it to know for sure how long it takes). I doubt it is a make it or break it issue in terms of life of the machine but if it really bugs someone they could always pull the electric plug (or use the on/off switch on a surge protector) immediately after taking the mask off.

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Re: How long does a CPAP machine last?

Post by highstick » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:48 pm

Pugsy wrote:
highstick wrote:
Perfect time for me to ask a question I've had...Does it matter if I turn my Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset off each morning after I get up? I have not been because it shuts down automatically, but if that is impacting "run hours", maybe I should be????
Resmed machines do for a period of time after you have removed the mask. It runs at a low level pressure for about 30 to 45 minutes and that time does count on the run hours but not therapy hours.
That time will explain any differences between therapy hours you may see reported and the run hours assuming you got the machine totally new with zero hours on it.
Over time the difference between run hours and therapy hours will grow as those 30 to 45 minutes keep adding up.
This time is referred to as "cool down" time and is supposed to be good for drying out the hose I suppose if there is any moisture in the hose leftover from the humidified air going through the hose. At least I think that is the official marketed use.

It does count as machine run hours though...30 minutes for 365 nights would amount to 182.5 over the course of a year...so would be a little more if it runs for 45 minutes (I never timed it to know for sure how long it takes). I doubt it is a make it or break it issue in terms of life of the machine but if it really bugs someone they could always pull the electric plug (or use the on/off switch on a surge protector) immediately after taking the mask off.
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highstick wrote:
Perfect time for me to ask a question I've had...Does it matter if I turn my Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset off each morning after I get up? I have not been because it shuts down automatically, but if that is impacting "run hours", maybe I should be????
Resmed machines do for a period of time after you have removed the mask. It runs at a low level pressure for about 30 to 45 minutes and that time does count on the run hours but not therapy hours.
That time will explain any differences between therapy hours you may see reported and the run hours assuming you got the machine totally new with zero hours on it.
Over time the difference between run hours and therapy hours will grow as those 30 to 45 minutes keep adding up.
This time is referred to as "cool down" time and is supposed to be good for drying out the hose I suppose if there is any moisture in the hose leftover from the humidified air going through the hose. At least I think that is the official marketed use.

It does count as machine run hours though...30 minutes for 365 nights would amount to 182.5 over the course of a year...so would be a little more if it runs for 45 minutes (I never timed it to know for sure how long it takes). I doubt it is a make it or break it issue in terms of life of the machine but if it really bugs someone they could always pull the electric plug (or use the on/off switch on a surge protector) immediately after taking the mask off.
Thanks...I'm not seeing the "run hours" anyway..I've been reluctant to pull the card and use any of the software discussed until I was totally compliant with Medicare. Makes sense to shut it down totally, but never really thought about it until I started hearing about "life expectancy". Heck, at 70, I may not need another one anyway, but then again............I might fool some folks...

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Re: How long does a CPAP machine last?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:01 pm

highstick wrote:
Thanks...I'm not seeing the "run hours" anyway..I've been reluctant to pull the card and use any of the software discussed until I was totally compliant with Medicare. Makes sense to shut it down totally, but never really thought about it until I started hearing about "life expectancy". Heck, at 70, I may not need another one anyway, but then again............I might fool some folks...
I have never bothered to shut down any of my machines completely because I don't think that in the long run those "cool down" times are really going to impact the overall life expectancy.
Bear in mind that if you do choose to pull the plug that no usage data can be transmitted to where ever it goes for the DME to check for usage or whatever they choose to check for.
Not a deal breaker because the SD card will have that data on it but the DME would have to get their hands on the SD card to get that data and whenever SD cards leave patient's hands stuff often happens to the SD card or its contents.

You don't have to worry about pulling the SD card to use the software though.. The software won't mess with the SD card contents at all and even if you did accidentally mess up the SD card somehow the machine stores the basic information on usage that the DME needs to keep Medicare happy and will put that stored information back on the SD card.

Run hours isn't on the SD card though...run hours has to be found on the machine. Not sure exactly which menu it is in with the AirSense machine but it's in a different area from the therapy hours. The provider/clinical manual should explain it though.

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Re: How long does a CPAP machine last?

Post by palerider » Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:04 pm

Wulfman... wrote:Could be, but he's been a forum member and user for over 3 years. You'd think that sensation would have happened quite some time ago..
these things sneak up on ya? I dunno, I'm guessing in the absence of data.

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Re: How long does a CPAP machine last?

Post by Wulfman... » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:02 pm

palerider wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:Could be, but he's been a forum member and user for over 3 years. You'd think that sensation would have happened quite some time ago..
these things sneak up on ya? I dunno, I'm guessing in the absence of data.
That triggered an image and some quotes from the movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales". (since you're using a moniker of another Eastwood character)

Lone Watie: I'm gettin' better at sneaking up on you like this. Only an Indian can do something like this.

Josey Wales: That's what I figured.

Lone Watie: You figured?

Josey Wales: Only an Indian could do something like that.

[Lone Watie hears a gun cock behind him; turns and sees Moonlight]

Lone Watie: It's not right; this damn woman doing something like this to me. I used to have power. Now old age is creeping up on me.

Josey Wales: More like old habits than old age.


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