Opinion on 3B Medical Luna CPAP Machine.

In the process of selecting a CPAP machine. They have talked to me about the 3B Medical Luna. Seems lije a pretty good machine but I am very new to all this . Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

What they say about it -

"The Luna continues 3B Medical’s efforts to increase patient compliance and restore profitability to the sleep marketplace by offering products that provide greater flexibility, functionality and efficiency at lower cost."

It looks to be all about 'compliance' (what the insce. co's want to see so they'll keep paying for machines) rather than quality in terms of patient use, patient ability to track their own progress in many ways (none of which is compliance) and therefore be able to adjust settings as needed on their own (as we all do), to improve their therapy. It also seems to be inexpensive (too much so), not necessarily a good thing when it comes to feeling better.

Go to Cpap.com, look at the machines available under 'Apap" (Apaps can do Cpap mode, but the reverse is not true and Apap's are much more preferable because of it).

I don't think this will work with any of the popular software to monitor your therapy.

You need to monitor you therapy to make sure it is optimized so you can feel the best possible.
I would not buy this..


I wish you well....

If it's not in the top 4 or 5 in sales, it's a pig in a poke. If you want poked, go cheap and limited features. Jim

Who is the "they" that have talked to you about it. If it's the DME...they may be trying to give you a low cost machine so the can maximize their profit from the insurance company (assuming you have insurance).

In the interest of providing additional information to aid with this discussion, I am furnishing the link to the product specification sheet: http://3bproducts.com/wp-content/upload ... t_1932.pdf. The Luna is a full featured device, with both advanced clinical efficacy and patient comfort features. Advanced algorithm, open airway apnea detection, and full patient access to both efficacy and compliance data by a suite of free smartphone apps. We don't monitor this website on a regular basis, but you are welcome to visit our website at 3Bproducts.com for more information. We are always happy to hear from patients, and prospective patients. Our email address is on our site and we are pleased to answer any specific product questions. 3B/BMC is a global player in both sleep diagnostics and sleep therapy with sales in 120 countries.

Depends on which Luna model...there is a compliance only usage model in their regular cpap and apparently the apap capable machine is a full data but the data has to use some sort of icode thing.
Have no idea in what format that data might be given or if there is flow rate available or anything beyond just numbers.

I would still stick with the known main long term players in the cpap market if it were me.
Only reason I see for a DME to be offering a less expensive machine....profit margin. That seems to be the driving force behind DME "recommendations".

Not much useful info in that 1 page pdf. No mention of a 12 volt input, a must for any I buy, never have used it but must have option. Pdf, doesn't Splain much Lucy! Jim

Sounds like new Rim's for the DME! Patient S. O. S.

At the bottom of this web page it says...RESTORING PROFITABILITY TO CPAP. To me this means the DME will make more money selling this.
http://3bproducts.com/wp-content/upload ... t_1932.pdf

3B Medical wrote:In the interest of providing additional information to aid with this discussion, I am furnishing the link to the product specification sheet: http://3bproducts.com/wp-content/upload ... t_1932.pdf. The Luna is a full featured device, with both advanced clinical efficacy and patient comfort features. Advanced algorithm, open airway apnea detection, and full patient access to both efficacy and compliance data by a suite of free smartphone apps. We don't monitor this website on a regular basis, but you are welcome to visit our website at 3Bproducts.com for more information. We are always happy to hear from patients, and prospective patients. Our email address is on our site and we are pleased to answer any specific product questions. 3B/BMC is a global player in both sleep diagnostics and sleep therapy with sales in 120 countries.

Does it come with the software so the patient can monitor their therapy? Does it tell you what the leak rate is?
Does it tell you what type of event your had during your sleep? Your info sheet says NOTHING that answers the questions.

I would never buy this machine it seems to be a brick..

You're being screwed.

Check the Useful Links in my signature line at the bottom of this post for hints on how to get the right machine.

If at all possible, get a ResMes A10 or S9 Elite or better. Philips Respironics PRS1 Pro or better is also good. The new Philips Respironics DreamStations are probably good, too, but since they're new models, I'd probably stick with PRS1, S9, or A10.

If insurance is not pitching in, you could save money by buying online.
You can click on the blue text under any of our posts for a link to our machine info.
Especially note the prices charged online vs local entities.
Reserve the cheapest models for travel or DIRE circumstances. You won't be sorry.
If the prices of the good machines seem steep, consider the price of GOOD mattresses.
Breathing all night is at least as important as a comfy tushie.

Thanks to all those who provided feedback to my question about the 3B Medical Luna machine. I finally have the Resmed Sense 10 Autoset and I am currently using the Airfit P10 mask. So far the CPAP therapy has been very positive considering I have been on it for 1 week only. I have just encountered my first problem and it"s called allergies. I have a very deviated septum and I suffer from allergies. My stuffy nose will not allow me to breath with my P10 mask. I have read on different boards and a full face mask is recommended. I have read reviews and the Airfit F10 seems great but I have facial hair (full beard) and am worried about leaks. Any suggestions?

I think the 3B medical Luna machine would be fine for a backup, but doesn't provide enough information for your primary needs. It gives AHI and 95% pressure and leaks, but no graphs. Given all the other work, it wasn't that hard to make this a better machine, but they chose not to. On the other hand, folks, we are LUCKY that someone created Sleepyhead. Otherwise, we'd probably still have insufficient data.