I'm At Crossroads: Do I need to go back on Seroquel?

Since you own it, you can CHANGE it. So do it already! Jerk!
By your own admission, you have failed to follow the simplest advice;
which only proves how little respect and gratitude you have for every bit of help you have been offered.
It also is an accurate gauge of the contempt which you hold for the people on this forum.

Enchanter wrote: . . .
I'm just being me. I'm just being me. I'm just being me. What you see is what you get. I have problems, and I don't know how to explain them or treat them. It is what it is. I do what I do. I post what I post. I'm not okay.

Confession saved for posterity--no excuse is good enough, SIR!

Enchanter wrote:

chunkyfrog wrote:Madalot is doing what you SHOULD be doing--being sensible and reasonable.
Failing that, you might be ahead with that large glass of water.
Sensible is better. Just take the good advice you've been given.
And STOP jerking the nice people around!

I'm just being me. I'm just being me. I'm just being me. What you see is what you get. I have problems, and I don't know how to explain them or treat them. It is what it is. I do what I do. I post what I post. I'm not okay.

Please find another message board...most of us are tired of hearing from you. Start fresh somewhere else.

Enchanter wrote:
I'm just being me. I'm just being me. I'm just being me. What you see is what you get. I have problems, and I don't know how to explain them or treat them. It is what it is. I do what I do. I post what I post. I'm not okay.

There are many wonderful and unbelievably patient people on this forum who have tried to help you repeatedly but they cannot help you. You are right. You are not okay. You need to go back and follow up with your psychiatric care, not look for other excuses for your problems. Seroquel is not a sleep medicine, it is a psychiatric medicine. Your life will never improve until you deal with the real problems. Weight gain is a small price to pay for your mental health. If you regain your mental health, you'll be better able to deal with your sleep issues and people may be willing to help again. But you've got a long way to go and a lot to prove before people will want to take the chance on helping you again. Perhaps this is why even your mother has grown weary of helping you.

Not to sound like a broken record but again, I wanted to repost Kaisgram's excellent advice regarding Enchanter:

""In fact I'm convinced that people's staying engaged with him on this forum -- no matter how well intended -- is keeping him distracted and disinclined to seek the help he really needs and which no one here is in a position to provide. I have compassion for his suffering and I feel strongly that the most helpful thing all of us can do at this point is to draw the line, stop responding to all his posts, put an end to these dysfunctional circular dialogues, and hope that he will then turn his attention to getting the appropriate professional (medical and mental health) care."""

chunkyfrog wrote:Since you own it, you can CHANGE it. So do it already! Jerk!
By your own admission, you have failed to follow the simplest advice;
which only proves how little respect and gratitude you have for every bit of help you have been offered.
It also is an accurate gauge of the contempt which you hold for the people on this forum.

You're calling me a jerk and yet I'm the one that is suffering.

Enchanter wrote:

chunkyfrog wrote:Since you own it, you can CHANGE it. So do it already! Jerk!
By your own admission, you have failed to follow the simplest advice;
which only proves how little respect and gratitude you have for every bit of help you have been offered.
It also is an accurate gauge of the contempt which you hold for the people on this forum.

You're calling me a jerk and yet I'm the one that is suffering.

You're not the only one and not by a long shot. You've caused alot of "suffering" for the rest of us, too.
Lots of these folks have been suffering......trying to HELP YOU and all you've done is crap on us.


Den

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You can't put out a forest fire with a empty squirt gun, even if you are standing in water. You must fill the gun. You refuse! Jim

We are done being burned and playing. That just leaves the nubies that haven't played your games, and the coffee soaked, willing to continue to play.

Goofproof wrote:You can't put out a forest fire with a empty squirt gun, even if you are standing in water. You must fill the gun. You refuse! Jim

We are done being burned and playing. That just leaves the nubies that haven't played your games, and the coffee soaked, willing to continue to play.

Shame on you for putting down the sufferer

Eric, you need to stop posting, as you have lost all your credibility and will never again get any useful information. If you're really as sick as you say, you need professional help and if, as most suspect, you are just jerking our chains, shame on you.

Enchanter wrote:

Goofproof wrote:You can't put out a forest fire with a empty squirt gun, even if you are standing in water. You must fill the gun. You refuse! Jim

We are done being burned and playing. That just leaves the nubies that haven't played your games, and the coffee soaked, willing to continue to play.

Shame on you for putting down the sufferer

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about and why so many people believe you are a troll.

My post, that explains exactly why people are treating you this way and why we post in your new threads AFTER a new person tries to help you, is ignored by you. You IGNORE anything that makes sense. All you respond to are the comments that you can come back with "Poor me. You're picking on me! I'm suffering! You don't understand!!!"

I wouldn't put up with this mentality from one of my children and sure as hell won't accept it from a supposed adult on the internet.

I don't give a crap what kind of "issues" you have. We all have issues. Some of the issues of other people on here would curl your hair! Your issues are nonsense compared to what some other people here continue to endure.

Grow a pair and stop behaving like a child. It's time to put on your big boy panties and start acting like a man instead of a spoiled child.

I understand people's frustrations but again,

""In fact I'm convinced that people's staying engaged with him on this forum -- no matter how well intended -- is keeping him distracted and disinclined to seek the help he really needs and which no one here is in a position to provide. I have compassion for his suffering and I feel strongly that the most helpful thing all of us can do at this point is to draw the line, stop responding to all his posts, put an end to these dysfunctional circular dialogues, and hope that he will then turn his attention to getting the appropriate professional (medical and mental health) care."""

49er wrote:I understand people's frustrations but again,

""In fact I'm convinced that people's staying engaged with him on this forum -- no matter how well intended -- is keeping him distracted and disinclined to seek the help he really needs and which no one here is in a position to provide. I have compassion for his suffering and I feel strongly that the most helpful thing all of us can do at this point is to draw the line, stop responding to all his posts, put an end to these dysfunctional circular dialogues, and hope that he will then turn his attention to getting the appropriate professional (medical and mental health) care."""

49er -- you're right. But here's the problem (and thus why I'm leaning more towards troll) --

People STOP helping. Enchanter disappears for 7-10 days, then comes back posting again. New people, really wanting to help, post and try to help him. Are we supposed to just ignore that and let those poor new people, who are probably still trying to figure out everything for themselves, waste time and get agitated over Enchanter's inability/unwillingness to help himself?

That's why I posted. I saw the thread and I honestly did say "Please...nobody post...just let this go down the page" and it worked for a few hours. But then a new member saw it and wanted to help.

Those of us on this board for a LONG time have seen it over and over again. A user by the name of Eric (which is why I believe somebody called Enchanter 'Eric') did this to the board for a very long time. Get veterans irritated, disappear for 7-14 days and come back and start it all over again.

Yes, veterans will ignore him, but for me, I can't idly stand by and watch the poor new member go through what we've been through so much.

As I said, this isn't about Enchanter anymore (although my last few posts would contradict that) -- it's about the poor new people that come in and don't know what they're dealing with.

Madalot wrote:

49er wrote:I understand people's frustrations but again,

""In fact I'm convinced that people's staying engaged with him on this forum -- no matter how well intended -- is keeping him distracted and disinclined to seek the help he really needs and which no one here is in a position to provide. I have compassion for his suffering and I feel strongly that the most helpful thing all of us can do at this point is to draw the line, stop responding to all his posts, put an end to these dysfunctional circular dialogues, and hope that he will then turn his attention to getting the appropriate professional (medical and mental health) care."""

49er -- you're right. But here's the problem (and thus why I'm leaning more towards troll) --

People STOP helping. Enchanter disappears for 7-10 days, then comes back posting again. New people, really wanting to help, post and try to help him. Are we supposed to just ignore that and let those poor new people, who are probably still trying to figure out everything for themselves, waste time and get agitated over Enchanter's inability/unwillingness to help himself?

That's why I posted. I saw the thread and I honestly did say "Please...nobody post...just let this go down the page" and it worked for a few hours. But then a new member saw it and wanted to help.

Those of us on this board for a LONG time have seen it over and over again. A user by the name of Eric (which is why I believe somebody called Enchanter 'Eric') did this to the board for a very long time. Get veterans irritated, disappear for 7-14 days and come back and start it all over again.

Yes, veterans will ignore him, but for me, I can't idly stand by and watch the poor new member go through what we've been through so much.

As I said, this isn't about Enchanter anymore (although my last few posts would contradict that) -- it's about the poor new people that come in and don't know what they're dealing with.

I thought he was just a troll, too, until I saw this post. This is a mental illness that he refuses to really address (I'm not a doctor but did work in a mental hospital for a number of years and his medication is used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder). There may be many others on this board who struggle with these diseases, and I mean no offense to anyone with these struggles, but the OP's refusal to acknowledge it and treat it is the problem here. And the problem for the forum is, as you say, that newbies don't know this and just want to try so hard to help someone. Perhaps a solution might be for someone in the know to simply be the first to reply to his posts that this is a case of untreated mental illness where the OP abandoned his mental health treatment and will not take any advice given on this board. Maybe that will help newbies understand the situation and not get caught in the spiral.

curems wrote:

Madalot wrote:

49er wrote:I understand people's frustrations but again,

""In fact I'm convinced that people's staying engaged with him on this forum -- no matter how well intended -- is keeping him distracted and disinclined to seek the help he really needs and which no one here is in a position to provide. I have compassion for his suffering and I feel strongly that the most helpful thing all of us can do at this point is to draw the line, stop responding to all his posts, put an end to these dysfunctional circular dialogues, and hope that he will then turn his attention to getting the appropriate professional (medical and mental health) care."""

49er -- you're right. But here's the problem (and thus why I'm leaning more towards troll) --

People STOP helping. Enchanter disappears for 7-10 days, then comes back posting again. New people, really wanting to help, post and try to help him. Are we supposed to just ignore that and let those poor new people, who are probably still trying to figure out everything for themselves, waste time and get agitated over Enchanter's inability/unwillingness to help himself?

That's why I posted. I saw the thread and I honestly did say "Please...nobody post...just let this go down the page" and it worked for a few hours. But then a new member saw it and wanted to help.

Those of us on this board for a LONG time have seen it over and over again. A user by the name of Eric (which is why I believe somebody called Enchanter 'Eric') did this to the board for a very long time. Get veterans irritated, disappear for 7-14 days and come back and start it all over again.

Yes, veterans will ignore him, but for me, I can't idly stand by and watch the poor new member go through what we've been through so much.

As I said, this isn't about Enchanter anymore (although my last few posts would contradict that) -- it's about the poor new people that come in and don't know what they're dealing with.

I thought he was just a troll, too, until I saw this post. This is a mental illness that he refuses to really address (I'm not a doctor but did work in a mental hospital for a number of years and his medication is used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder). There may be many others on this board who struggle with these diseases, and I mean no offense to anyone with these struggles, but the OP's refusal to acknowledge it and treat it is the problem here. And the problem for the forum is, as you say, that newbies don't know this and just want to try so hard to help someone. Perhaps a solution might be for someone in the know to simply be the first to reply to his posts that this is a case of untreated mental illness where the OP abandoned his mental health treatment and will not take any advice given on this board. Maybe that will help newbies understand the situation and not get caught in the spiral.

You only make generalizations and don't know everything. I didn't just abandon treatment. I worked really really hard in a comprehensive program to ween me off the drug and help save my life. You just have no idea.