Respiratory Effort Related Arousals(RERA)-not on Airsense10

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KeepSmiling
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Respiratory Effort Related Arousals(RERA)-not on Airsense10

Post by KeepSmiling » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:14 pm

Does the regular Airsense 1o auto not record Respiratory Effort Related Arousals (RERA)?

I do not see it on the ResScan.

When I read the manual I think it does not record RERA. On the machine, I only saw the modes CPAP and AutoSet and NOT AutoSet for Her


From the manual: 2014 ResMed Ltd. 378230/2 2014-08
RESMED Airsense 10


[Respiratory effort related arousals reporting

Respiratory Effort Related Arousals (RERA) reporting is available on the AirSense 10 AutoSet for Her
in all modes.

RERAs are periods of increasing respiratory effort which are terminated by an arousal. Increasing
respiratory effort will be seen as airflow limitation.These flow-based RERA events are logged and
stored as summary and/or detailed data and can then be viewed in one of ResMed's patient
management systems.]

Later on I read this:

[AutoSet for Her mode
AutoSet for Her mode is based on key aspects of ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm and delivers
therapeutic responses tailored to the characteristics of female OSA patients.

The AutoSet for Her is similar to ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm with the following modifications:

Reduced rate of pressure increments designed to help prevent arousals.

Slower pressure decays.

Treats apneas up to 12 cm H2O and continues to respond to flow limitation and snore up to
20 cm H2O.

Minimum pressure (Min. Pressure) that adjusts according to the frequency of apneas:
If two apneas occur within a minute, the pressure reached in response to the second apnea will
become the new minimum treatment pressure until the next treatment session.

Patients who use AutoSet for Her will still get the benefits of ResMed's AutoSet technology
including improved sensitivity to flow-limitation and Central Sleep Apnoea Detection with Forced
Oscillation Technique.]

Does resmed think men do not get RERA and that women do not need pressures over 12 for Obstructive apnea.

Well I know a woman who needs at least 16 cmH2O pressure. And a guy who needs less then 10 and has gotten to 12 during leaks.

I will call resmed and see if the the airsense auto for her will also do auto mode "for him".

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Re: Respiratory Effort Related Arousals(RERA)-not on Airsense10

Post by 49er » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:37 am

KeepSmiling,

For some reason, I thought the regular Airsense 10 Auto did record RERAS so please let us know what Resmed tells you about this.

As a female, I hate it when machines are tailored towards a particular sex as you are right about women needing pressures higher than 12 and men getting RERAS. That type of stereotyping has not served either sex well in my opinion in getting optimal treatment for various conditions.

49er

KeepSmiling wrote:Does the regular Airsense 1o auto not record Respiratory Effort Related Arousals (RERA)?

I do not see it on the ResScan.

When I read the manual I think it does not record RERA. On the machine, I only saw the modes CPAP and AutoSet and NOT AutoSet for Her


From the manual: 2014 ResMed Ltd. 378230/2 2014-08
RESMED Airsense 10


[Respiratory effort related arousals reporting

Respiratory Effort Related Arousals (RERA) reporting is available on the AirSense 10 AutoSet for Her
in all modes.

RERAs are periods of increasing respiratory effort which are terminated by an arousal. Increasing
respiratory effort will be seen as airflow limitation.These flow-based RERA events are logged and
stored as summary and/or detailed data and can then be viewed in one of ResMed's patient
management systems.]

Later on I read this:

[AutoSet for Her mode
AutoSet for Her mode is based on key aspects of ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm and delivers
therapeutic responses tailored to the characteristics of female OSA patients.

The AutoSet for Her is similar to ResMed’s AutoSet algorithm with the following modifications:

Reduced rate of pressure increments designed to help prevent arousals.

Slower pressure decays.

Treats apneas up to 12 cm H2O and continues to respond to flow limitation and snore up to
20 cm H2O.

Minimum pressure (Min. Pressure) that adjusts according to the frequency of apneas:
If two apneas occur within a minute, the pressure reached in response to the second apnea will
become the new minimum treatment pressure until the next treatment session.

Patients who use AutoSet for Her will still get the benefits of ResMed's AutoSet technology
including improved sensitivity to flow-limitation and Central Sleep Apnoea Detection with Forced
Oscillation Technique.]

Does resmed think men do not get RERA and that women do not need pressures over 12 for Obstructive apnea.

Well I know a woman who needs at least 16 cmH2O pressure. And a guy who needs less then 10 and has gotten to 12 during leaks.

I will call resmed and see if the the airsense auto for her will also do auto mode "for him".

KeepSmiling
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Re: Respiratory Effort Related Arousals(RERA)-not on Airsense10

Post by KeepSmiling » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:13 am

In a nut shell I was told the Airsense 10 for her machine records RERA and to get that one.

And ya, the name should be different.

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Re: Respiratory Effort Related Arousals(RERA)-not on Airsense10

Post by SewTired » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:49 am

To my knowledge, there are 2 machine types that record RERAs. The Resmed Airsense for Her and the Respironics 60 (I know the auto does, don't know if others in the line do). If it is important to you (and it was to me since most of my issue was RERAs), then those are the machines to get.

Also, the Airsense for Her does go above 12. It's just that the special algorithm specific for women's breathing only goes up to 12. After that, it uses the standard Resmed algorithm. So, if you were regularly going above 12, you would switch to the standard setting.

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