Paleo Diet Is Bunk

Not Fade · Post by **Not Fade** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:37 pm

Scientific American

Pity the Paleo dieters. Their low-carb lifestyles are probably misguided.

http://qz.com/479123/?utm_source=parSM

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:16 pm

I just saw another story about the same thing yesterday... it does make sense I suppose that without more than 'vegetation' and meat, people won't necessarily be in good shape for hard work. Protein is not the fuel bodies need, only the muscle builder (crudely).

archangle · Post by **archangle** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:30 pm

Not Fade wrote:
Scientific American

Pity the Paleo dieters. Their low-carb lifestyles are probably misguided.

http://qz.com/479123/?utm_source=parSM

What's "Scientific American" got to do with it? That link is for something called "Quartz.'

The study quoted by the "Quartz" article says nothing about paleo diets being bunk, and has no information about whether paleo diets work.

Note, I'm not a paleo diet advocate or opponent.

Krelvin · Post by **Krelvin** » Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:37 pm

It is a report of an a study of archaeological, genetic and physiological evidence. Not a current study of people using the diet itself now. Not into it whatever, but there is nothing Scientific American about it. No reference to them whatsoever.

Pity the Paleo dieters. Their low-carb lifestyles are probably misguided.

The theory behind the very trendy high-protein/low-carb Paleo diet is that we should mimic the diets of our Paleolithic ancestors, eating mainly meat, fish, and a restricted list of pre-agricultural vegetables and fruit. (There is some debate within the Paleo community about which starchy vegetables and how much of them are Paleo-approved, but most recommend limiting them if not barring them entirely.) But according to a new study in The Quarterly Review of Biology, the low-carb interpretation of the paleolithic menu is probably all wrong. The researchers posit that our cavemen and cavewoman ancestors loved—and needed—carbs as much as we do, even if they gathered them instead of cultivated them.

Based on a review of archaeological, genetic and physiological evidence, the researchers found that “plant carbohydrates and meat were both necessary and complementary dietary components” in the evolution of humans. Examination of 3-million-year-old teeth and the plant-life in the regions where our ancestors lived also signal that they were eating tubers and other starchy vegetables.

Jay Aitchsee · Post by **Jay Aitchsee** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:17 am

Not Fade wrote:Pity the Paleo dieters. Their low-carb lifestyles are probably misguided.

Well, I don't know about the "bunk" part. I'm not an expert, but I think the "Paleo" diet relies heavily on minimally processed foods, rather than shunning all carbohydrates in favor of meat. Minimally processed is certainly something our ancestors enjoyed as well.

Julie · Post by **Julie** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:38 am

Can't remember if it was in the article I read re Paleo, but it was said that cooking food makes it much more accessible nutritionally and that when people began heating their food their health improved. Raw food is not the be all and end all for most of us, just a passing fad.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:06 am

Jay Aitchsee wrote: I think the "Paleo" diet relies heavily on minimally processed foods

This is from Scientific American,

Most nutritionists consent that the Paleo diet gets at least one thing right—cutting down on processed foods that have been highly modified from their raw state through various methods of preservation. Examples include white bread and other refined flour products, artificial cheese, certain cold cuts and packaged meats, potato chips, and sugary cereals. Such processed foods often offer less protein, fiber and iron than their unprocessed equivalents, and some are packed with sodium and preservatives that may increase the risk of heart disease and certain cancers.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... eally-eat/

To tightly restrict in your diet the items marked in red seems fairly easy to do and nearly common sense given the knowledge we have now. (Note: They should have been more specific on "certain cold cuts and packaged meats".)

I don't believe the fanaticism about "Paleo" is good for anyone except those who have learned how to profit off of it.

I did read Paleofantasy by Marlene Zuk. It's more about evolution than diet and it destroys some of the Paleo myths about evolution. Independent from what you eat, if you, like me, have believed much of what the Paleo advocates have said about evolution, you might enjoy this engaging book.

One important point is that we are still evolving. There is no endpoint in evolution. (Unless Jesus comes back or Mollette's Meteorite arrives.)

Jay Aitchsee · Post by **Jay Aitchsee** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:10 am

Julie wrote:Can't remember if it was in the article I read re Paleo, but it was said that cooking food makes it much more accessible nutritionally and that when people began heating their food their health improved. Raw food is not the be all and end all for most of us, just a passing fad.

Who said anything about raw food? Forest fires and therefore "cooked' foods have been available for a long time. Minimally processed does not mean raw, although raw is certainly minimally processed.

Edit: Thanks, CG, for that quote from S.A. you got in while I was composing.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:29 am

I'm not big on regulation, but many people are so clueless, that this is probably a good move - http://www.medpagetoday.com/Blogs/Edibl ... g142281d0r

Matt00926 · Post by **Matt00926** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:49 am

Paleo diet may be "bunk" but it would do a lot of good for many who are obese and have terrible eating habits. Start from the basics and then incorporate more foods into your diet. Portion control should be drilled into people from childhood.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:00 am

Is "Paleo" something to be avoided by creationists?

Worldwar2 · Post by **Worldwar2** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:07 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:I'm not big on regulation, but many people are so clueless, that this is probably a good move - http://www.medpagetoday.com/Blogs/Edibl ... g142281d0r

Good article. Looking forward to Oct. 2015. Also good to see that people are actually listening up.

BlackSpinner · Post by **BlackSpinner** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:22 am

Julie wrote:Can't remember if it was in the article I read re Paleo, but it was said that cooking food makes it much more accessible nutritionally and that when people began heating their food their health improved. Raw food is not the be all and end all for most of us, just a passing fad.

We were cooking food long before the paleolithic so it is not about cooking or not cooking. It is about industrial processing and knowing what you are eating. Any diet that is balanced and does not include prepackaged food will be better for you. That is all Paleo is. Our ancestors ate diets from high carb to low carb depending on the location and season. What they didn't eat was Twinkies, pies, cakes, chips, Doritos, pop and candy. What they didn't do was sit on their ass all day either.

carbonman · Post by **carbonman** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:03 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:What they didn't do was sit on their ass all day either.

Sir NoddinOff · Post by **Sir NoddinOff** » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:12 pm

Welcome input and about time. Thanks.

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