Looking for better stimulants.

Since Provigil was a bust, I'm wondering what else is out there? I'm immune to caffeine now, but I need something to get through the day.

Noctuary wrote:Since Provigil was a bust, I'm wondering what else is out there? I'm immune to caffeine now, but I need something to get through the day.

I know you disagree but your fatigue may be due to eating too few calories and eating a high carb diet. Even if you think we are full of sh-t,why not try to change something just to see if it might help. What do you have to lose?

I am not anti meds but chasing the perfect stimulant seems like a losing proposition to me.

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I know you disagree but your fatigue may be due to eating too few calories and eating a high carb diet. Even if you think we are full of sh-t,why not try to change something just to see if it might help. What do you have to lose?

Up until about six weeks ago I had been eating a low carb high fat diet. For 12 years.

I am not anti meds but chasing the perfect stimulant seems like a losing proposition to me.

I don't need a perfect stimulant, just one that will keep me alert and not feeling wiped out all day. I've "hanged in there" for 13 months; it hasn't gotten better.

PROTEIN! A grown man needs protein! Fat and high or low carbs aren't enough.

Noctuary wrote:

I know you disagree but your fatigue may be due to eating too few calories and eating a high carb diet. Even if you think we are full of sh-t,why not try to change something just to see if it might help. What do you have to lose?

Up until about six weeks ago I had been eating a low carb high fat diet. For 12 years.

I am not anti meds but chasing the perfect stimulant seems like a losing proposition to me.

I don't need a perfect stimulant, just one that will keep me alert and not feeling wiped out all day. I've "hanged in there" for 13 months; it hasn't gotten better.

I drink a "deadeye" in the afternoon. I brew a 4 serving pot of espresso and then a regular pot of coffee in the bunn. In a large mug put all the espresso (full strength and black) and then top off whatever room is left with regular coffee. I do mine black with no sugars or creams. Neat as I call it. Most people can't handle this but I've been doing it for years. I drink a full pot of regular when I get up and then brewed ice ted the rest of the day. The deadeye is for when I feel like I am dragging. I have no trouble going to sleep later in the evening.

Julie wrote:PROTEIN! A grown man needs protein! Fat and high or low carbs aren't enough.

I eat a lot of beans. And when I was low carb I got massive amounts of protein from meat, nuts and fish.

My unending fatigue is not an issue of protein or diet. I feel sleepy; I'm not getting restful sleep, even with the cpap.

So I am looking to drugs now.

Noctuary wrote:

Julie wrote:PROTEIN! A grown man needs protein! Fat and high or low carbs aren't enough.

I eat a lot of beans. And when I was low carb I got massive amounts of protein from meat, nuts and fish.

My unending fatigue is not an issue of protein or diet. I feel sleepy; I'm not getting restful sleep, even with the cpap.

So I am looking to drugs now.

Perhaps you should join and ask that question in a drug forum not a sleep apnea forum.

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Noctuary wrote:

Julie wrote:PROTEIN! A grown man needs protein! Fat and high or low carbs aren't enough.

I eat a lot of beans. And when I was low carb I got massive amounts of protein from meat, nuts and fish.

My unending fatigue is not an issue of protein or diet. I feel sleepy; I'm not getting restful sleep, even with the cpap.

So I am looking to drugs now.

Have you ever considered checking into acupuncture? Not sure if it would help but might be worth a try. Back in the day we used "diet pills"!

Noctuary wrote:

Julie wrote:PROTEIN! A grown man needs protein! Fat and high or low carbs aren't enough.

I eat a lot of beans. And when I was low carb I got massive amounts of protein from meat, nuts and fish.

My unending fatigue is not an issue of protein or diet. I feel sleepy; I'm not getting restful sleep, even with the cpap.

So I am looking to drugs now.

Have you ever considered checking into acupuncture? Not sure if it would help but might be worth a try. Back in the day we used "diet pills"!

Noctuary wrote:

nanwilson wrote:Perhaps you should join and ask that question in a drug forum not a sleep apnea forum.

Since I use CPAP I will ask it here, sweety.

because why would you ask where there might be better information on DRUGS.

because why would you ask where there might be better information on DRUGS.

But today I am asking HERE. I have sleep apnea, this is a sleep apnea site.

cancun wrote:

Noctuary wrote:

Julie wrote:PROTEIN! A grown man needs protein! Fat and high or low carbs aren't enough.

I eat a lot of beans. And when I was low carb I got massive amounts of protein from meat, nuts and fish.

My unending fatigue is not an issue of protein or diet. I feel sleepy; I'm not getting restful sleep, even with the cpap.

So I am looking to drugs now.

Have you ever considered checking into acupuncture? Not sure if it would help but might be worth a try. Back in the day we used "diet pills"!

I have, but it requires multiple treatments at $90 a pop.

Noctuary wrote:

because why would you ask where there might be better information on DRUGS.

But today I am asking HERE. I have sleep apnea, this is a sleep apnea site.

well, I guess that makes sense, if you don't actually want to get the best advice and improve, sure.

why not ask for advice on your bicycle on a car site because you happen to have a car and you're there... i'm sure you'll get the best possible advice.