Full face mask pushs back my jaw
Full face mask pushs back my jaw
Just wondering if anyone has noticed this. It seems that when I tighten my full face mask, the Airfit but the make doesn't really matter I don't think, it seems to pull my jaw back. That's the exact opposite of what my dental device does, which is move the jaw forward to open the airway. Anyone notice less air flow when they tighten their full face mask? I'm starting to wonder if that's an issue for me. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks, H
Thanks, H
_________________
Machine: PR System One REMStar 60 Series Auto CPAP Machine |
Mask: Quattro™ FX Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
You can overtighten them. If you are adjusting the straps without the mask being under air pressure, you could be over tightening it. The silicon seal needs to expand to form the seal.
_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: CMS-50F & 50IW - SleepyHead 1.0.0-Beta |
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
It may be that you have the lower strap too tight. Sometimes looser is better with mask cushions.
_________________
Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask |
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
- Wulfman...
- Posts: 6688
- Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:41 pm
- Location: Nearest fishing spot
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
Not for me.
I keep my teeth/jaw together, my tongue to the roof of my mouth and don't over-tighten my headgear (most of the tension is on the bottom straps). It works better if the mask "floats" on one's face. Over-tightening can contribute to more leaks. It's also important to have the correct size mask.
Den
.
I keep my teeth/jaw together, my tongue to the roof of my mouth and don't over-tighten my headgear (most of the tension is on the bottom straps). It works better if the mask "floats" on one's face. Over-tightening can contribute to more leaks. It's also important to have the correct size mask.
Den
.
(5) REMstar Autos w/C-Flex & (6) REMstar Pro 2 CPAPs w/C-Flex - Pressure Setting = 14 cm.
"Passover" Humidification - ResMed Ultra Mirage FF - Encore Pro w/Card Reader & MyEncore software - Chiroflow pillow
User since 05/14/05
"Passover" Humidification - ResMed Ultra Mirage FF - Encore Pro w/Card Reader & MyEncore software - Chiroflow pillow
User since 05/14/05
- Sir NoddinOff
- Posts: 4190
- Joined: Mon May 14, 2012 5:30 pm
- Location: California
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
I have the same problem so I got a Ruby chinstrap. It lets you set the tension you need plus the fore and aft top straps give you a lot of customization options:
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/ruby-s ... strap.html
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/ruby-s ... strap.html
_________________
Mask: AirFit™ F10 Full Face Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: Sleepyhead software v.0.9.8.1 Open GL and Encore Pro v2.2. |
I like my ResMed AirFit F10 FFM - reasonably low leaks for my ASV therapy. I'm currently using a PR S1 AutoSV 960P Advanced. I also keep a ResMed S9 Adapt as backup. I use a heated Hibernite hose. Still rockin' with Win 7 by using GWX to stop Win 10.
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
Sounds like I need to play with the straps again.
Anyone ever try wearing a dental device and a mask? That would solve my issue of holding my jaw forward (which seems to loosen and go back as I sleep) but would be a pain.
Anyone ever try wearing a dental device and a mask? That would solve my issue of holding my jaw forward (which seems to loosen and go back as I sleep) but would be a pain.
_________________
Machine: PR System One REMStar 60 Series Auto CPAP Machine |
Mask: Quattro™ FX Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
Yes, I think that is the first step.HanzT wrote:Sounds like I need to play with the straps again.
Instead you might try a soft cervical collar - very cheap trial and easy to tolerate, at least it is for me.HanzT wrote:Anyone ever try wearing a dental device and a mask? That would solve my issue of holding my jaw forward (which seems to loosen and go back as I sleep) but would be a pain.
The main function of the collar is to hold your neck/airway in the best position for air flow. It seems to also help a little bit to keep the jaw from dropping.
The one I use is similar to this - http://www.amazon.com/Carex-Health-Bran ... cal+collar
I live in a subtropical climate and have no problem tolerating it in even the worst of the summer.
Sheffey
- grayghost4
- Posts: 1554
- Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:52 pm
- Location: Norther Illinois
- Contact:
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
I sometime use a dental MAD ... I have it set in a neutral position to keep my lower jaw from going back after i go to sleep. I also use a cervical collar to keep my jaw closed. and I use a nasal pillow mask with this set up.
everyone need to find what works for them
everyone need to find what works for them
If you're not part of the solution you're just scumming up the bottom of the beaker!
Get the Clinicians manual here : http://apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-press ... tup-manual
Get the Clinicians manual here : http://apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-press ... tup-manual
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
That is a problem with ff masks for some, including me. I do much better with a nasal mask, but lately I've had some allergies so I'm back in the Quattro and it's really noticeable.
_________________
Machine: ResMed AirSense™ 10 AutoSet™ CPAP Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier |
Mask: DreamWear Nasal CPAP Mask with Headgear |
What you need to know before you meet your DME http://tinyurl.com/2arffqx
Taming the Mirage Quattro http://tinyurl.com/2ft3lh8
Swift FX Fitting Guide http://tinyurl.com/22ur9ts
Don't Pay that Upcharge! http://tinyurl.com/2ck48rm
Taming the Mirage Quattro http://tinyurl.com/2ft3lh8
Swift FX Fitting Guide http://tinyurl.com/22ur9ts
Don't Pay that Upcharge! http://tinyurl.com/2ck48rm
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
Some of the experts say that this is common and it means that higher pressure is needed for many people when they use FFM's. Others will say this is nonsense.
Me, I think it happens to some people, and is one of the things you have to consider when choosing a mask.
Some lazy DME's push FFM's so they don't have to deal with nasal mask problems and don't put the patient's need first. Or they may simply be ignorant of the problems of FFM's.
I think a FFM is the wrong first choice for mask and should only be used if there are problems with nasal masks.
Me, I think it happens to some people, and is one of the things you have to consider when choosing a mask.
Some lazy DME's push FFM's so they don't have to deal with nasal mask problems and don't put the patient's need first. Or they may simply be ignorant of the problems of FFM's.
I think a FFM is the wrong first choice for mask and should only be used if there are problems with nasal masks.
_________________
Mask: Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Additional Comments: Also SleepyHead, PRS1 Auto, Respironics Auto M series, Legacy Auto, and Legacy Plus |
Please enter your equipment in your profile so we can help you.
Click here for information on the most common alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check for yourself.
Useful Links.
Click here for information on the most common alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check for yourself.
Useful Links.
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
I had the same problem: my jaw tends to drop during sleep even without a mask, which could be fixed with either of:HanzT wrote:Just wondering if anyone has noticed this. It seems that when I tighten my full face mask, the Airfit but the make doesn't really matter I don't think, it seems to pull my jaw back. That's the exact opposite of what my dental device does, which is move the jaw forward to open the airway. Anyone notice less air flow when they tighten their full face mask? I'm starting to wonder if that's an issue for me. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks, H
- dental guard
- partial mouth taping (most comfortable for me)
- chin-strap
- cervical collar
_________________
Mask: Mirage Quattro™ Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control |
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
Thanks for all the posts. I do have nasal allergies so that's how I ended up on the full face mask. I'm going to try both my MAD/dental device, and more pressure after I give that a shot. Then the neck collar. Having some new ideas is nice because it increases the feeling of hope. Thanks again.
_________________
Machine: PR System One REMStar 60 Series Auto CPAP Machine |
Mask: Quattro™ FX Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Re: Full face mask pushs back my jaw
My first choice would be the cervical collar. Then a little less tension on the bottom straps might do the trick.
_________________
Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask |
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.