ResMed's "failed" trial of ASV machines

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Re: ResMed's

Post by palerider » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:19 pm

xxyzx wrote:
LSAT wrote:Our "end-of-alphabet boy" troll has not learned to observe posting dates. Morbius wrote that post over 2 years ago.
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rotflmao

the comment was incorrect
better corrected now then never
hmm, let's see, should we believe someone that managed a sleep lab.... or the village idiot.

go back to your village.

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Re: ResMed's

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:40 am

For those that don't know Morbius (or any of his other numerous IDs)....he runs a sleep lab in a large hospital in a city in the NorthEast.
He knows this stuff inside and out...you might not like what he says or how he says it but you can pretty much bank on what he says being spot on accurate despite opinions to the contrary by certain forum members.

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Re: ResMed's

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:10 pm

xxyzx wrote:i showed the facts that disprove his claim
Hmmmm. I saw no facts presented by you at all.
xxyzx wrote:you merely claim that he is perfect while trying to dis me in passing
Nope, never said he is perfect. He could be quite a jerk when he set his mind to it but he knows his stuff about sleep studies.
You on the other hand can be a first class jerk without even trying. You do have him beat on that one though.

Sorry bucko but the letters he has after his name and his experience trumps whatever you might have after your name or you think you know.
xxyzx wrote: show the facts and stop dealing in personalities as that only invites snarkiness in return
I will stop when you stop with your own direct personal attacks and name calling...and since you have to get the last "libtard" in...that will happen when hell freezes over.
So get used to it.
and here in case you can't read or forgot what I have said in the past I don't have to prove anything to you and I won't bother wasting my time.

I was here first and you have to prove to me...not the other way around.
So far the only proven thing I have seen from you is your lack of vocabulary and lack of some common place skills.
Quite an accomplishment for sure.

Back to the Foe list you go. I wasted enough time here.

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Re: ResMed's

Post by ajack » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:11 pm

Is the reason you need an ASV, because opiate depressed and altered breathing patterns it can correct? Are you are one of the prescription, opiate addicted pop of the US? It has rampantly spread through the population. As a cheap management of symptoms, saving the cost of having effective medical care.
You are making as much sense, as if you are speaking from a chinese opium den.

As he said ASV does make the flow chart look pretty, regular ahi of zero can be recorded, with the PB being fixed..A nice even flow chart that looks pretty.

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Re: ResMed's

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:42 pm

xxyzx wrote:you are just a libtard bully that is FOS and cant think logically
Is that the best you can do when it comes to name calling? When you can't come back with a well thought out rebuttal you simply resort to bully, libtard, FOS..... name calling. Doesn't surprise me considering the source.
I have been called worse by better people than you. Get over yourself. It actually points out your own inadequacies more than it hurts me or hurts me in the eyes of others. You think that because you call me names that people will think less of me????
You are so dead wrong on that one. Even the members who don't care for me personally will see you for what you really are and it sure isn't nearly as pretty as what you think you are.
xxyzx wrote: you may read sleepyhead charts real good but you seriously lack mental capacity elsewhere
try learning some logic
Gosh...why does this comment not surprise me. Attack the person because you can't communicate a well thought out logical rebuttal. Speaks volumes towards your own inadequacies in my book. Does nothing at all to earn respect which I think you want more than anything.
The respect that I have here....I earned every bit of it. I earned it with hard work actually helping people who need it.

So....if you want respect you have to earn it and that starts by showing respect first. I know this will fall on deaf ears but I will say it anyway.
There are ways to disagree with someone without name calling but if that is the best you can do then I guess that says a lot in itself.

I did go back and read in this thread everything you wrote and I saw no actual proof of anything. You say you read it somewhere but no links or documentation...just because you say it doesn't make it so.

And if you look back I never actually said that what you said was not correct. My original statement was to back up Morbius credibility and I never mentioned you or what you said or whether or not you were right or wrong. You brought that up all on your own. I just said that I trusted him more than you and if you don't like it. Tough shit.

And for what little it might be worth...
I do use an ASV machine...so I do know what I am talking about when it comes to using one which is one step further than you have gotten so far. I have plenty of logic thank you and tons of down right personal experience to draw from...again further than you have gotten with all your "reading".

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Re: ResMed's

Post by palerider » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:27 pm

xxyzx wrote:i could do worse insults
but you dont deserve the best

i told it like it was
typical libtard attempt to spin it and divert attention

you ARE illogical

i showed you why ASV was more then a pretty waveform
and you reject the obvious truth
why, you orange faced traitor, what are you doing polluting our forum?

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Re: ResMed's

Post by Pugsy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:35 pm

xxyzx wrote:i showed you why ASV was more then a pretty waveform
Where did you show me or anyone else?

This was your first comment you made in this old thread (see below in case you forgot). Just because you say something doesn't make it "proof" and I just now looked back at each and everyone of your posts and there's no sort of "proof" other than you saying that Morbius was talking nonsense.
I am sorry but you believing something and saying it doesn't constitute proof of anything.
xxyzx wrote: nonsense

ASV adjusts breath to breath to do nothing if nothing is needed
force breathing when centrals occur
and only use high pressure to handle OSA when tht actually occurs

by not having steady high pressure the number of centrals that are caused by the pressure are reduced

this is much more than just a pretty waveform

there are 5 types of central apnea and if they relate to heart failure the ASV does not help
and if all you really have are transitional ones then it may not be needed
but if you have compsas then it is a big help and absolutely necessary
As for this comment you make often
xxyzx wrote:i only attack in response to those who attack me first
Total bullshit. I didn't attack you or even mention your name with my post about Morbius credentials.
You took offense and started all that smart mouth name calling stuff without any help from me with this.
xxyzx wrote:why cant you libtards discuss actual provable things and support your claims
all i see is opinions from most of them
pugsy you are the rare counterexample as occasionally you do post somethingn factual
but this time you blew it

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