i smother on my cpap

KatyDidAgain wrote:While I agree with RobySue in general, I also agree with Blackspinner's advice. OP sounds like a hypochondriac who needs a shrink, not more surgeries, doctors or sleep studies.

and, meanwhile, like so many times in the past, the OP "complainer" making the provocative post, rattling the turkey cage.... seems to be nowhere to be found, while we all gobble gobble at each other for their amusement.

Or the OP moved on to a forum where they weren't 'greeted' by people of walmart.

Elle wrote:Or the OP moved on to a forum where they weren't 'greeted' by people of walmart.

your asscrack is hanging out of your spandex hip huggers, sweetie.

And the winner is....

The OP offered many words with no actual information. S/he also seems to be referring to different things, insomnia and sleep apnea and treating them as one and the same.

S/he provided no information about what went wrong with the dozens of "types" of masks s/he tried but it should be fairly obvious to OP that if they have such nasal problems that perhaps a nasal/pillows mask wouldn't be appropriate.

OP says s/he had seen six doctors and underwent three sleep studies as well as surgery but gave no information about what s/he was diagnosed with or what the docs had recommended or whether s/he wis following docs advise or treating themselves.

OP didn't mention having any trouble with breathing without the mask on leading me to believe they are at best experiencing anxiety and *feeling* like they can't breathe. And that led me to suggest a shrink.

I wonder if people are more likely to return when they receive responses from Robysue?

KatyDidAgain wrote:The OP offered many words with no actual information. S/he also seems to be referring to different things, insomnia and sleep apnea and treating them as one and the same.

oh, elle's just being her normal assholeish self...

lookin in the mirror and typing "you're so low class".

Elle wrote:I wonder if people are more likely to return when they receive responses from Robysue?

Doesn't really matter, the truth is the truth! XPAP can only hold the airway open, some problems need a higher starting point. Jumping around trying to get instant relief, doesn't work, you have to make logical choices at each stage of treatment. Sometimes we are our own worse enemies. With the facts no one can help you! Jim

palerider wrote:fact is, even at 4cm of pressure, there's plenty of air, nobody is going to smother at that level, otherwise the lawyers wouldn't let the manufacturers sell the machines, for fear of huge lawsuit payouts.

Quite a few people feel like they're not getting enough air at 4. I used to be puzzled by this, but I think the reason may be that you rebreathe a little more of your exhaled air because of the lower vent rate.

I do agree that it's unlikely to actually cause any "physical" O2/CO2 problems because the masks are designed to be safe at 4 cmH2O. However, if the suffocation feeling causes you to wake up in a panic, or disturbs your sleep, you're not going to get the full benefit of CPAP.

archangle wrote:

palerider wrote:fact is, even at 4cm of pressure, there's plenty of air, nobody is going to smother at that level, otherwise the lawyers wouldn't let the manufacturers sell the machines, for fear of huge lawsuit payouts.

Quite a few people feel like they're not getting enough air at 4. I used to be puzzled by this, but I think the reason may be that you rebreathe a little more of your exhaled air because of the lower vent rate.

I do agree that it's unlikely to actually cause any "physical" O2/CO2 problems because the masks are designed to be safe at 4 cmH2O. However, if the suffocation feeling causes you to wake up in a panic, or disturbs your sleep, you're not going to get the full benefit of CPAP.

Agreed, I could only use the ramp feature for a week or two before 4cm felt like suffocating. But I'm pretty sure there is a happy medium somewhere between that and 25 for most people.

As I've said before, I'd never recommend this place to my grandmother because there are some real assholes. Probably myself included. But if someone's very last destination is the people who could have helped at the beginning and then they come to whine because their various doctors and surgeries and dozens of masks and multiple machines haven't fixed the problem in their head, I'm not so sympathetic. And no one rolled out the red carpet for me when I got here. Except Pugsy. Because she's nice to everyone. We can't all be Pugsy.

OP hasn't bothered to followup. And if anyone remembers the OP's OP, they would remember that s/he didn't ask for pointers on how to make CPAP work. They asked how they could make their airway bigger and for alternatives to CPAP. If they had spent any time reading the site, they would have seen a bunch of recent threads talking about alternatives to CPAP. Also, who goes to a site specifically about CPAP if they aren't interested in pursuing it further?

I agree with Palerider's initial evaluation that OP has come and caused a ruckus and now we're all smacking our lips, figuratively, about this amongst ourselves. Must be great entertainment.

KatyDidAgain wrote: Because she's nice to everyone. We can't all be Pugsy.

I can be an asshole too. Don't think that I can't because I can throw a fit with the best of them. Not something I am particularly proud of but I am human and have everyone of the normal human traits and that includes the not so nice traits.

OP in this thread didn't bother to register and I didn't comment mainly because anything I would have said had already been said and to be honest I was waiting to see if the OP even bothered to come back. For all we know he/she left the unhappy comment and never could find their way back to this forum and this thread. We don't know for sure if the people with the 2 X 4 comments had any negative effect or not on the reason the OP hasn't posted again.
Also due to the syntax of the OP original comments I wondered if maybe it was done using some sort of smart phone...maybe the OP simply hasn't been back at all after making the original comments.

Some people do come here just to vent and not necessarily wanting help in succeeding with cpap therapy. I figure I let them vent and then if they really want help they come back and answer some questions (and in this case we really had nothing to go on to offer any sort of ideas to help) and at least try to help themselves...and the first step in helping oneself is giving us something to work with.

My personal opinion here in this situation....the OP was venting and simply hasn't been back and either has no intention of returning or can't find their way back.

This forum has always had 2 sorts of people here...those that hand hold and those that dish out the cold hard facts of life with a 2 X 4. I think that each has its own place depending on the circumstances but for me personally....I try to keep that 2 X 4 hidden until there is no other way to get someone's attention.

to everyone that tried to help me thanks. to the others who are arrogant immature losers who just insult i hope u die of sleep apnea. goodnight.

neworleans49 wrote:to everyone that tried to help me thanks. to the others who are arrogant immature losers who just insult i hope u die of sleep apnea. goodnight.

Gee......I didn't even get around to chiming in on this thread......til now. I saw your first post and a few of the first replies and I was waiting (like the others) for you to put forth some information about your equipment and settings.

i cant breathe on my cpap. when i put on my mask i cant breathe. i used a cpap, bipap , dozens of diff types of masks , min to max pressure, been to 6 doc, 3 sleep studies, tried sleeping pills, melotonin, warm milk, dark light therapy, nasal liquids, nasal strips, deviated septum and turbinate surgery. etc. they did say i have a narrow passage way which is true but i still cant get enough air in. so what can i do about it. how can i make it bigger. what other treatments besides these machines.

Now you're bad-mouthing people who were trying to find out information and you're leaving???
That little bit of "nothing" you posted in your first post says absolutely nothing.

YOU are the arrogant, immature loser. And, now you've demonstrated it again.

Adios!

AND.....you're lucky that Pugsy's "asshole side" didn't come out, too.


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I think what happened here is that a newbie instead of disappearing after being treated poorly,came back to tell you what he thought of the behaviour of some. I think pugsy gave him the bebefit of the doubt. The denial regarding bullying in this forum is puzzling given how helpful (and gracious) the majority of the members are.

OP still had the choice to ignore the "arrogant immature losers" and actually respond to those trying to help. Instead he had a temper tantrum and tossed out insults.

Personally, it's no sweat off my back. He can come back and put on his big boy pants or not.