ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset: Update please

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Re: ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset: Update please

Post by archangle » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:00 pm

Physician wrote:
archangle wrote:Several people have reported that newer versions of the A10 AutoSet also have the RERA detection, not just the AutoSet for her model. Not sure whether the over the air software updates add this function.

How important are CS and RERA detections ?
Not really that important usually, and the way they're measured by CPAP is rather suspect. It's sort of an indication of something you might want to consider when evaluating problems. They tend to "cry wolf" and show "CSA/Periodic Breathing" at a time when there's not really much of a problem.

There are some serious medical conditions that can cause CSA. CPAP users can show a pattern similar to CSA even in patients who have nothing major wrong, and it's not harmful. If it gets really bad, this waxing and waning CSA pattern may be significant enough to cause true central apnea problems. You need to look at the waveforms to know the difference.

RERA indication is somewhat problematical as well. It sometimes shows up in CPAP data when there's not really much going on, or it may be a clue to problems.

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I tried the AirSense 10, and prefer the S9

Post by Physician » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:26 pm

Tried out the AirSense 10 after reading posts in this forum and other places. It took about 15 minutes to decide between a new "10" and a new "9". I chose the S9, a model I've enjoyed for over five years.

1. While the AS10 had newer styling, larger screen, colored LCD, lit knob, and a screen positioned for easy viewing, this unit sits in the bedroom, not the living room. Rarely need to look at the screen.

2. I don't use water in the humidifier chamber, but can see why people have problems with the AS10 gaskets. First, they are on the AS10 machine, not the chamber (as they are in the S9), and the S9 has one, the AS10 has two. Called two DMEs and they do not keep these gaskets in stock. ResMed should have placed the gaskets on the chamber where they are replaced when the chamber is replaced, and where they are more accessible should one elect to change them.

3. The S9 chamber can be filled without removing the chamber, but the AS10 requires the user to pull the chamber away from the machine, then flip up the top.

4. The inhalation and expiration sensation was the same with each machine set at EPR = 3.

5. Noise: It's been reported that the AS10 is slightly quieter than the S9. Yes, when running and not in use the S9 = AS10. BUT when the machines are in use via breathing, there is a substantial difference. On inspiration the exhaust area from the AS10 was not only louder, but a higher frequency than the S9. This annoying inspiratory loud blast from the AS10 was of great concern and was a deal-breaker.

This AS10 unit was factory sealed and never used until this try-out. Perhaps another AS10 wouldn't do this, so will try it again in a week with a different AS10 and make an audio recording.


There are a few more comparisons/contrasts, but these are sufficient to make a decision.
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Re: ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset: Update please

Post by tan » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:02 am

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rockncountry101 wrote:Tangledhose, does your AirSense detect RERAs? Someone told me that the new update provides that information. I don't know if it's true. I order mine today and I am leaning towards the "for her" model specifically because it measures RERAs. That was my problem during my test. Thanks.
The Airsense For Her measures RERAs. If that is your issue, that is the machine to get. That is why I bought that machine. Sadly, I am awaiting a replacement that should show up this week. You should know that the Respironics auto ALSO logs RERAs. It's my loaner machine and it does show the RERAs in Sleepyhead. Just wanted you to know that if you were otherwise leaning towards the Respironics.
I have been told that RERA aren't scored accurately by the machines. There must be a reason why scoring is still done manually in the sleep labs

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Re: ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset MP3 comparisons

Post by Physician » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:22 pm

Comparison of the inspiratory and expiratory noises of the ResMed S9 and the AirSense 10: viewtopic/t108378/Audio-Comparisons-MP3 ... se-10.html

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Re: ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset: Update please

Post by Laos Film Director » Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:42 pm

Does the S9"s Slimline hose work on the AS10?

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Re: ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset: Update please

Post by Physician » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:21 am

Laos Film Director wrote:Does the S9"s Slimline hose work on the AS10?

Nope. The fittings are different.

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Re: ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset: Update please

Post by Pugsy » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:46 am

Physician wrote:
Laos Film Director wrote:Does the S9"s Slimline hose work on the AS10?

Nope. The fittings are different.
Are you sure about that?
According to cpap.com and the product page for the SlimLine hose...it will fit both models.
Were you thinking of the heated hoses? Now those are model specific and not interchangeable between the AirSense/AirCurve and S9 models

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ubing.html

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Re: ResMed AirSense 10 vs. S9 autoset: Update please

Post by Physician » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:29 pm

Pugsy wrote:
Physician wrote:
Laos Film Director wrote:Does the S9"s Slimline hose work on the AS10?

Nope. The fittings are different.
Are you sure about that?
According to cpap.com and the product page for the SlimLine hose...it will fit both models.
Were you thinking of the heated hoses? Now those are model specific and not interchangeable between the AirSense/AirCurve and S9 models

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... ubing.html


Oooops. I first read your post as ClimateLine, the only hose I use. Sorry.