Help Correcting Year 2016 to 2015

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Help Correcting Year 2016 to 2015

Post by NateS » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:40 pm

In trying to adjust my ResMed the other day in the Clinical Menu because it was a day ahead, I screwed up the year and it's now on 2016 and it won't go back no matter what I've tried. I rolled it back but it keep rejecting my change.

Any help or advice would be very much appreciated!

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by Wulfman... » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:45 pm

NateS wrote:In trying to adjust my ResMed the other day in the Clinical Menu because it was a day ahead, I screwed up the year and it's now on 2016 and it won't go back no matter what I've tried. I rolled it back but it keep rejecting my change.

Any help or advice would be very much appreciated!

Best wishes, Nate
When you changed originally, did it write the information to the data card?
I'm not that familiar with these new machines, but have you tried taking the card out and then try to reset it?


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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:48 pm

Nate, you can wait for other replies but I'm afraid the only way to "go back" is to go into the clinical menu and erase the data. This essentially erases everything but the run hours. I don't have it right at my fingertips, but the clinical manual tells how to do it. Apparently this is to prevent someone from going back and changing clinical data that has already been recorded.
edit: See page 22 of the manual. It talks about setting a date in the past and what has to be done. The machine thinks you are in 2016 now, so you must set a date "in the past". If you want to try to salvage the data on the card, use a new one for the reset.

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by NateS » Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:34 pm

Jay Aitchsee wrote:Nate, you can wait for other replies but I'm afraid the only way to "go back" is to go into the clinical menu and erase the data. This essentially erases everything but the run hours. I don't have it right at my fingertips, but the clinical manual tells how to do it. Apparently this is to prevent someone from going back and changing clinical data that has already been recorded.
edit: See page 22 of the manual. It talks about setting a date in the past and what has to be done. The machine thinks you are in 2016 now, so you must set a date "in the past". If you want to try to salvage the data on the card, use a new one for the reset.
Jay,

Thanks for the tip, even though it's bad news.
Checked page 22 and I see what you mean.
Could you please elaborate on this part of what you said:

" If you want to try to salvage the data on the card, use a new one for the reset"

If I were to save the data on the card, would the card upon reinsert write the data back to the machine after I erase the machine and re-set it to 2015?

If I can't be sure it would do that, then I think I will just stay with the fact that my machine is now a year ahead of everybody else, and shrug my shoulders the next time I'm asked to submit a Summary Report or mail the SD card in. After all, I've been on the machine continuously since Dec 2011 and it's fully paid for, so they're not going to take it back. But, then again it may/could become an issue with future Medicare supplies.

Regards, Nate

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by palerider » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:07 pm

I'd pop the card out, erase it, then clear the data on the s9, set date, (may have to reset to factory defaults) and only then pop in the freshly erased sd card for formatting.

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by NateS » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:17 pm

palerider wrote:I'd pop the card out, erase it, then clear the data on the s9, set date, (may have to reset to factory defaults) and only then pop in the freshly erased sd card for formatting.
But what about saving and re-installing the existing history?

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by Wulfman... » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:45 pm

NateS wrote:
palerider wrote:I'd pop the card out, erase it, then clear the data on the s9, set date, (may have to reset to factory defaults) and only then pop in the freshly erased sd card for formatting.
But what about saving and re-installing the existing history?

Regards, Nate
Sort of sounds like your existing data may be FUBARed with next years date anyway.


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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by Jay Aitchsee » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:46 pm

I don't know any way to save the data back to the machine, but you can save it in ResScan or SleepyHead. I haven't tried to write data over dates that already exist in either program but you might be able to. When a similar thing happened to me, I reset my machine to get it back to the right date and lost the history (summary data) stored on the machine, but I still had it on the card and in the software so I could reproduce it. The only thing that will stay on the machine is run hours. The other (compliance/therapy hours), I forget the exact name right now, will start over.
I think the best you can do is save the data on the card. But, somebody else may have another solution.
I guess you could try calling ResMed, but I don't hold out much hope. I really think it's a design thing that disallows cheating on compliance data. Of course, somebody probably knows how to hack it.

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by palerider » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:58 pm

NateS wrote:
palerider wrote:I'd pop the card out, erase it, then clear the data on the s9, set date, (may have to reset to factory defaults) and only then pop in the freshly erased sd card for formatting.
But what about saving and re-installing the existing history?

Regards, Nate
as Jay says, I think, as far as the card and machine are concerned, it's all gone.

but sleepyhead will remember what you've put in so far, and if you imported the wrong year data into SH, you can delete those days..

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by NateS » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:43 am

After confirming that only compliance data would be erased and not pressure settings and other items, I followed the good advice given above, deleted the compliance data on the machine, corrected my year on the machine back to 2015 and now get correctly dated new entries in SleepyHead and ResScan.

Unfortunately, however I let a month go by before I did it, so now I have about a month's worth of entries in both programs that are off by a year and my averages are off, and each program jumps to the 2016 entries when opened, thinking they are the most recent.

I assume there must be some way to just delete those 2016 entries in both programs, although not sure how, but my first choice of course would be to correct the dates, either directly within SleepyHead and ResScan, or globally changing the raw backup data saved to my computer. I experimented with globally changing all the records (in a trashable extra copy of the 2016 raw data) that start with "2016" to instead start with "2015" and then tried reimporting them, but they still came in with 2016 dates. Apparently there are other things in the data which also need to be changed. But what are they???

Any suggestions from the technically-inclined here would be very much appreciated!

Best wishes, Nate

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by archangle » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:53 am

One suggestion I would have made before it was too late would have been to copy the SD card itself to a directory.

The simplest thing would be to start a new user in SleepyHead and just start from now forward. You can go back to your time traveling user if you need to look at your old data from your Dr. Who period.

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Re: Pls Help me Fix "Year" on ResScan S9!

Post by NateS » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:12 am

archangle wrote:One suggestion I would have made before it was too late would have been to copy the SD card itself to a directory.
I did do that, so it's not too late for whatever suggestions you might make. A copy of the entire SD card before it was wiped is available on my HD for "experimental surgery" if you can suggest what I might try. I could clone it as many times as necessary for experimental efforts.
archangle wrote:The simplest thing would be to start a new user in SleepyHead and just start from now forward. You can go back to your time traveling user if you need to look at your old data from your Dr. Who period.
A good fallback suggestion, but I hate to pass up the challenge of achieving perfection if it is within the realm of possibility.

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Re: Help Correcting Year 2016 to 2015

Post by Pugsy » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:05 am

I don't know of any way to do what you are wanting to do on that large of a scale (a months worth of data) on a Resmed machine.
I would think you would need to modify the file data on the card (or saved in your clone) to change the date from 2016 to 2015.
I don't know if that can be done or not.
I don't think it can be done at all from within the software.

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Re: Help Correcting Year 2016 to 2015

Post by NateS » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:07 am

Pugsy wrote:I don't know of any way to do what you are wanting to do on that large of a scale (a months worth of data) on a Resmed machine.
I would think you would need to modify the file data on the card (or saved in your clone) to change the date from 2016 to 2015.
I don't know if that can be done or not.
I don't think it can be done at all from within the software.
Yes, I agree. Using the Mac's built-in Finder software on one cloned copy made of the contents of the SD card before I re-formatted it, I was able to use one quick command to globally modify the first four characters in the names of the 300+/- files (the EVEs, PLDs, BRPs and SADs) in the DATALOG file, which started with "2016" to instead start with "2015".

But that leaves the following files, which appear outside of the DATALOG file unchanged, and I don't know whether the contents of these three files need to be changed or regenerated:

Identification.crc
Identification.tgt
STR.crc
STR.edf

And there may or may not be some changes needed to be made with in the SETTINGS folder but if so, I don't know what they might need, if anything. Perhaps nothing, if the SETTINGS folder merely contains the data which was unchanged, such as pressures, masks, reminders, warning etc.

So that's where I am at, at this point, and where I would like to go, if possible.

I am wondering, for example, whether I could use the PhysioMIMI EDF Editor to correct the dates, depending on how intuitive that software may be, or whether there might be even a simpler method known to one or more of our members.

Regards, Nate

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Re: Help Correcting Year 2016 to 2015

Post by Pugsy » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:14 am

You might point Mark to this thread and ask him if he thinks it is possible to modify those other files.
He has worked a lot more with these files than most of us had and maybe he has an idea.
Palerider seems to chat with Mark often on some sort of chat thing...maybe if you joined them there you could pick his brain about your problem.

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