Bigger Water Tank?

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Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Skyhog » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:40 am

I have the DeVilbiss 54 and it seems like I can't make it through the night without dry tanking about an hour before I wake up...not a pleasant experience.

I have no leaks, and I use a full face mask. My home is incredibly dry in the winters (always has been) and I live at a high elevation (>7000ft), so the answer is more water...but how?

Any advice?

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Julie » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:42 am

A regular free standing room humidifier... nuisance, but it works. No Cpap machine humidifier will be large enough to accommodate your relatively extreme environment.

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Skyhog » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:49 am

How does that work? Do I connect it to my CPAP?

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by JeffV » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:03 am

Nope, you set it up in the room and have it humidify the air in your bedroom. The fact that the air in your room is more humid should mean that the humidifier won't have to work as hard (and thus use up as much water) to deliver the same amount of humidity to your airway.

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Skyhog » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:38 am

Alright...I will give that a shot!

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Julie » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:59 am

You buy them at hardware/home stores.

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Skyhog » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:47 pm

The fact that I only need approximately 1 more hour doesn't give me any options for a bigger tank without going with the humidifier?

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Wulfman... » Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:55 pm

Skyhog wrote:I have the DeVilbiss 54 and it seems like I can't make it through the night without dry tanking about an hour before I wake up...not a pleasant experience.

I have no leaks, and I use a full face mask. My home is incredibly dry in the winters (always has been) and I live at a high elevation (>7000ft), so the answer is more water...but how?

Any advice?
Really? I live at about 6000 ft. (near the mountains) and use "passover" humidity (water in tank but no heat) year round. Have for nearly 10 years now. The low relative humidity in the air will pick up more as the air passes over the water.
My water level drops between 1/8 and 1/4 of an inch per night.......so, I know I'm getting some humidity. I also couldn't stand the warm humid air when I tried heated humidity for the first couple of nights when I started therapy. I turned it off and have never regretted it.


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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by herefishy » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:50 pm

You could hook up the passover humidifier in line with your system, just use 2 hoses and that should give you plenty of humidity.

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Skyhog » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:57 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
Skyhog wrote:I have the DeVilbiss 54 and it seems like I can't make it through the night without dry tanking about an hour before I wake up...not a pleasant experience.

I have no leaks, and I use a full face mask. My home is incredibly dry in the winters (always has been) and I live at a high elevation (>7000ft), so the answer is more water...but how?

Any advice?
Really? I live at about 6000 ft. (near the mountains) and use "passover" humidity (water in tank but no heat) year round. Have for nearly 10 years now. The low relative humidity in the air will pick up more as the air passes over the water.
My water level drops between 1/8 and 1/4 of an inch per night.......so, I know I'm getting some humidity. I also couldn't stand the warm humid air when I tried heated humidity for the first couple of nights when I started therapy. I turned it off and have never regretted it.


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I'm not sure what kind of humidity my DeVilbiss puts out - I know it says "heat" in the menu, but it doesn't feel like warm mist (in fact, it feels quite cool). I run it at 8 (out of 10) as that seems to be the best way to keep my nose from drying out without swamping me overnight.

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Skyhog » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:58 pm

herefishy wrote:You could hook up the passover humidifier in line with your system, just use 2 hoses and that should give you plenty of humidity.
How do I do that?

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by herefishy » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:51 pm

The hose that goes from the machine to the mask? You buy a passover humidifier and fasten the hose to that, then run another hose out of the passover to the mask. That's what I have, though I have no humidifier and no water in the passover. Just use the PO for sound muffling. Don't know, but can't help but believe, that the combo would be putting out tons of humidity. Then you could turn down your metered humidifier and conserve it.

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Wulfman... » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:03 pm

Skyhog wrote:
Wulfman... wrote:
Skyhog wrote:I have the DeVilbiss 54 and it seems like I can't make it through the night without dry tanking about an hour before I wake up...not a pleasant experience.

I have no leaks, and I use a full face mask. My home is incredibly dry in the winters (always has been) and I live at a high elevation (>7000ft), so the answer is more water...but how?

Any advice?
Really? I live at about 6000 ft. (near the mountains) and use "passover" humidity (water in tank but no heat) year round. Have for nearly 10 years now. The low relative humidity in the air will pick up more as the air passes over the water.
My water level drops between 1/8 and 1/4 of an inch per night.......so, I know I'm getting some humidity. I also couldn't stand the warm humid air when I tried heated humidity for the first couple of nights when I started therapy. I turned it off and have never regretted it.


Den

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I'm not sure what kind of humidity my DeVilbiss puts out - I know it says "heat" in the menu, but it doesn't feel like warm mist (in fact, it feels quite cool). I run it at 8 (out of 10) as that seems to be the best way to keep my nose from drying out without swamping me overnight.

From the manual:

Controlling the Humidity (optional)
The heater setting can be adjusted within a range of 1 to 10. The optimum temperature setting is dependent on the ambient
temperature and humidity of your room. If your room temperature is low and/or the relative humidity is high, then a lower
temperature setting may be necessary to prevent excess condensation in the air supply tubing. If the room temperature is
high and/or the relative humidity is low, then a higher temperature setting may be necessary for optimum comfort.
The heater setting of 1 results in a heater plate temperature of approximately 84°F (29°C). The heater setting of 10 results
in a heater plate temperature of approximately 149°F (65°C).
NOTE–Always allow at least 10 minutes of cooling time after turning the device off before removing the water chamber
from the humidifier cradle.
WARNING
Do not attempt to fill the humidifier while it is attached to the humidifier cradle. Damage to the humidifier cradle
may occur.
CAUTION– Use only distilled water that is at room temperature. Do not add any medication or other additives to the water.
CAUTION– For proper operation, ensure the flow generator is OFF before inserting humidifier chamber.
WARNING
Never touch the heater plate on the humidifier cradle. Never touch the heat transfer plate on the bottom of the
water chamber. These plates can reach temperatures as high as 149°F (65°C) during operation.
Do not operate the heater if the water chamber is empty. The heater plate may be turned off using the keypad
heater control when being used without water.


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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by Skyhog » Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:50 pm

herefishy wrote:The hose that goes from the machine to the mask? You buy a passover humidifier and fasten the hose to that, then run another hose out of the passover to the mask. That's what I have, though I have no humidifier and no water in the passover. Just use the PO for sound muffling. Don't know, but can't help but believe, that the combo would be putting out tons of humidity. Then you could turn down your metered humidifier and conserve it.
Huh! I'll start digging around for one. The HC150 on CPAP.com looks interesting, but is a bit expensive for a humidifier...

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Re: Bigger Water Tank?

Post by mike1953 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:01 pm

You can get room humidifiers from Amazon anywhere from $20 on up.

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