slip sliding away.....

Help!! I have a swift LT that I love, but no matter what I try (hose up, down, straps tighter, looser) it slides up and over on my big flat head. I wake up and the bottom strap is up where the top strap should be. Pulling the headgear back down solves the leak problem. I have short hair, so I can't hold it down with a pony tail. Oh wise and wonderful, advice please.. I guess I have a flat head or something.

Hmm, maybe something like a sweat band on the outside of the head gear? I use it as a chin strap this way will very good success. Wonder if it would have enough tension to secure the sliding back part of the head gear?
Mine is wide enough to be comfortable. Terry cloth so soft and has just enough tension to support things and in my case, helps keep the nasal pillows from moving around too much also.

Back when I was using the Swift, I had to use the velcro trick as noted here viewtopic.php?t=5965 .

I don't know if this would also apply to a Swift LT though, but it may be worth a try.

I'll give it a try- thanks so much for the tip and the link to the thread.

I swear by hair spray on the hair in the back of my head to stop the sliding. Plus, after turning machine on and inserting the pillows, I wiggle my nose a la Jeannie in 'Bewitched' to fully seat the pillows, if there is any leak I adjust the angle (not sure if all pillow masks allow you to adjust the angle). These work perfectly to keep the headgear from slipping and ensure the pillows are properly placed.

You might be a good candidate for the PAP CAP. It has a full head cotton cap that you pull your headgear over to keep it from sliding around. See the link to "Pur Sleep" below in my signature block.

You can also try just taking a regular cotton bandana, and laying it over your head - don't tie it - and just pull your headgear over that. It works wonderfully well. Any bit of cotton cloth will work, really.

And/or, try another mask.

I run a free test drive for the Nasal Aire II. See my links below for more info.

Cheers,
Barbara

You have described exactly what I go thru trying to keep any of the headgears in place. Some people have a "hook" at the lower back of the head - not me! My mom always said it was because I was so ill as an infant they let me lay on my back too much. She said they weren't concerned about shaping my head as they didn't think I would survive. Oh well. To make it more difficult, I can't tolerate a strap too low around the back of the head due to neck issues. Using the deconstructed Headrest, Can't claim to be "wise and wonderful", but I've found that I must tie one of the pantyhose tights leg straps around the front of my face (just below the vent holes) angled nearly straight around to minimize the "pull" to slide upward in the back. It is placed over the sides of the higher placed strap and knotted above the other knot to help hold it in place. Maybe you can rig something to brace your sliding headgear. If I remember correctly with the Swift, the problem with doing this was using a sling type support blocked the vent, so I don't know how this would translate to your particular mask. Maybe you can get creative. I had the same issue with chin straps too.

Kathy

P.S. This discussion reminds me of some reading I was doing a few years ago regarding physical characteristics attributed to one's ancestry. A cousin had told me of my grandmother identifying her grandkids by feeling the back of their head. I was reading about Melungeons, a group with a particular mix of ethnicities that settled in the Appalachian area. Seems the component of Portugese ancestry produced a higher percentage with a ridge or bump at the base of the skill and/or a ridge behind their front teeth. I do have the dental ridge, but daggone, missed out on the skull ridge that some of my relatives have. Would have made headgear fit easier.