So, 'contributing to rain-out' and 'causing rain-out' are not exactly the same thing? So what? It's close enough.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 amNo where did I suggest that a hose management system can *cause* rainout, no where.Conrad wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 6:57 amI've been using the above hose management system for over a year now, never experienced a rainout event, never.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:55 amAttached to the wall above my head, I have a command strip and velcro holding my hose above my head.
It's role is purely to stop/reduce entanglements.
The role of lowering the CPAP below one's head is *way* overstated. For it to be helpful the hose would need to be at a somewhat sharp continuous angle, from ones mask to their machines, with no dips.
Add to that, hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask.
YMMV
The OP already has an occasional rain-out problem.
I was pretty clear stating, "hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask"
Anyone use hose lift or hose buddy system?
Re: Anyone use hose lift or hose buddy system?
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Re: Anyone use hose lift or hose buddy system?
These are all good suggestions. I just have a second pillow that i position on edge behind by sleep pillow. I route the hose from the machine, first slightly downward, and then I route it up behind the back of the pillow, and over the top of the pillow. It costs nothing extra, and I don't have to attach things to the wall.
I have never had any issue with rain out. There is plenty of hose available if I turn side to side without any issue.
You may want to try that for a few nights to see if that will work for you vs. getting a hose lift.
The other bonus for this, is that you can do the same thing at a hotel, and you will be used to how to do it.
I have never had any issue with rain out. There is plenty of hose available if I turn side to side without any issue.
You may want to try that for a few nights to see if that will work for you vs. getting a hose lift.
The other bonus for this, is that you can do the same thing at a hotel, and you will be used to how to do it.
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Re: Anyone use hose lift or hose buddy system?
No they aren't (necessarily) the same, though in some contexts they can sometimes be similar..Conrad wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 6:36 amSo, 'contributing to rain-out' and 'causing rain-out' are not exactly the same thing? So what? It's close enough.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 amNo where did I suggest that a hose management system can *cause* rainout, no where.Conrad wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 6:57 amI've been using the above hose management system for over a year now, never experienced a rainout event, never.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:55 amAttached to the wall above my head, I have a command strip and velcro holding my hose above my head.
It's role is purely to stop/reduce entanglements.
The role of lowering the CPAP below one's head is *way* overstated. For it to be helpful the hose would need to be at a somewhat sharp continuous angle, from ones mask to their machines, with no dips.
Add to that, hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask.
YMMV
The OP already has an occasional rain-out problem.
I was pretty clear stating, "hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask"
Cause: produces an effect, eliminating the cause will eliminate the effect.
Contribute: exacerbate.
This is the context I used Contribute. This should have been obvious, as I explicitly stated how it exacerbated the rain-out.
"hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask"
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Re: Anyone use hose lift or hose buddy system?
Not sure it's the same brand but I use one that looks like the one lazarus provided a link for.
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Re: Anyone use hose lift or hose buddy system?
Whatever dude.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 12:21 pmNo they aren't (necessarily) the same, though in some contexts they can sometimes be similar..Conrad wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 6:36 amSo, 'contributing to rain-out' and 'causing rain-out' are not exactly the same thing? So what? It's close enough.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 7:03 amNo where did I suggest that a hose management system can *cause* rainout, no where.Conrad wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 6:57 amI've been using the above hose management system for over a year now, never experienced a rainout event, never.Dog Slobber wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 8:55 amAttached to the wall above my head, I have a command strip and velcro holding my hose above my head.
It's role is purely to stop/reduce entanglements.
The role of lowering the CPAP below one's head is *way* overstated. For it to be helpful the hose would need to be at a somewhat sharp continuous angle, from ones mask to their machines, with no dips.
Add to that, hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask.
YMMV
The OP already has an occasional rain-out problem.
I was pretty clear stating, "hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask"
Cause: produces an effect, eliminating the cause will eliminate the effect.
Contribute: exacerbate.
This is the context I used Contribute. This should have been obvious, as I explicitly stated how it exacerbated the rain-out.
"hanging ones hose, would contribute to rain-out, as any moisture that condenses after the high-pint would run towards the mask"
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Re: Anyone use hose lift or hose buddy system?
Thank you for this. Didn't know these existed. It is my new home hose management system. I attached one to the back of the piece of furniture next to the bed. Invisible. Made my wife very happy.lynninnj wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 8:08 pmThese command hooks are pretty sweet and perfect size.
Prob don’t need the six pack but you probably get the drift.
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