chin strap for back sleeper to use with bleep

One more advantage to the Eclipse over the Bleep that I just realized as I just now put the Eclipse on is I find it much easier to line up the holes on the halo with my nostrils. I don't have the plastic in the way pointing out at all directions and getting in the way.
I just put my finger over the metal ring and put it over the nostril opening and then press on the adhesive....took me all of 5 seconds.
It is MUCH easier to apply the Halos and much faster as well.

I used an athletic wrap to make my own "cozies" including the barrels. I have the beige colored stuff but you could get fancy. (you dont need 15 rolls but here goes) https://a.co/d/bYK1kMg

I simply cut it the length and sized I needed and it is self sticking so I pinched it into place. I was able to get a perfect fit around the barrels. It does add some weight to the hose though, like anything would.

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:33 pm

One more advantage to the Eclipse over the Bleep that I just realized as I just now put the Eclipse on is I find it much easier to line up the holes on the halo with my nostrils. I don't have the plastic in the way pointing out at all directions and getting in the way.
I just put my finger over the metal ring and put it over the nostril opening and then press on the adhesive....took me all of 5 seconds.
It is MUCH easier to apply the Halos and much faster as well.

The words I use when getting the Bleep lined up for the night are rather colourful. My wife can tell from the other room whether it is a struggle or things line up just right by the string of four-letter words. Once connected it works extremely well, but getting to that point is a struggle. Well worth it though.

Thankfully Stuart said the pre-orders should start shipping this Friday, so hopefully they will arrive soon and reduce the pre-sleep vulgarity ritual. Though admittedly I think I will miss it

Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:26 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:33 pm

One more advantage to the Eclipse over the Bleep that I just realized as I just now put the Eclipse on is I find it much easier to line up the holes on the halo with my nostrils. I don't have the plastic in the way pointing out at all directions and getting in the way.
I just put my finger over the metal ring and put it over the nostril opening and then press on the adhesive....took me all of 5 seconds.
It is MUCH easier to apply the Halos and much faster as well.

The words I use when getting the Bleep lined up for the night are rather colourful. My wife can tell from the other room whether it is a struggle or things line up just right by the string of four-letter words. Once connected it works extremely well, but getting to that point is a struggle. Well worth it though.

Thankfully Stuart said the pre-orders should start shipping this Friday, so hopefully they will arrive soon and reduce the pre-sleep vulgarity ritual. Though admittedly I think I will miss it

I recently rewatched the instructions video, and realized Stuarts instructions are different for attaching the first and the second port. Worth a try.

Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:26 pm

Thankfully Stuart said the pre-orders should start shipping this Friday, so hopefully they will arrive soon and reduce the pre-sleep vulgarity ritual. Though admittedly I think I will miss it

how better to discharge tension before going to sleep?

ozij wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:49 pm

I recently rewatched the instructions video, and realized Stuarts instructions are different for attaching the first and the second port. Worth a try.

Thanks, I’ve watched them many times. It’s not the knowledge, it’s the physical ability. Arthritic hands and fine work are not congruent.

Attaching the DreamPort is easy with Stuart’s instructions, its connecting it to the frame that is difficult for me. My latest workaround is to attach the Bleeps (appropriately named based on my words of choice when applying) to the frame first, then attach to my nose. When things are lined up right it works well.

Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:26 pm

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:33 pm

One more advantage to the Eclipse over the Bleep that I just realized as I just now put the Eclipse on is I find it much easier to line up the holes on the halo with my nostrils. I don't have the plastic in the way pointing out at all directions and getting in the way.
I just put my finger over the metal ring and put it over the nostril opening and then press on the adhesive....took me all of 5 seconds.
It is MUCH easier to apply the Halos and much faster as well.

The words I use when getting the Bleep lined up for the night are rather colourful. My wife can tell from the other room whether it is a struggle or things line up just right by the string of four-letter words. Once connected it works extremely well, but getting to that point is a struggle. Well worth it though.

Thankfully Stuart said the pre-orders should start shipping this Friday, so hopefully they will arrive soon and reduce the pre-sleep vulgarity ritual. Though admittedly I think I will miss it

it’s the physical ability. Arthritic hands and fine work are not congruent.

Yeah...I have been known to use a lot of blue flavored words myself at times. Or as my husband says....I cuss like a sailor.

Hand/finger dexterity is a known potential trouble maker for attaching the ports to the frame of the original Bleep. Sometimes went without a hitch but at times it was a struggle especially when my right hand/wrist starting really being painful. I ended up having surgery a year ago this past August.. I had got to the point I couldn't even pull the ports off the paper much less do any attaching.

I predict you are going to fall in love with the Eclipse and you will need to find something else to use your colorful words on.
Wife will likely wonder why all the silence.

Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:04 pm

ozij wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:49 pm

I recently rewatched the instructions video, and realized Stuarts instructions are different for attaching the first and the second port. Worth a try.

Thanks, I’ve watched them many times. It’s not the knowledge, it’s the physical ability. Arthritic hands and fine work are not congruent.

Attaching the DreamPort is easy with Stuart’s instructions, its connecting it to the frame that is difficult for me. My latest workaround is to attach the Bleeps (appropriately named based on my words of choice when applying) to the frame first, then attach to my nose. When things are lined up right it works well.

My bigger problem was actually attaching the dreamports to my nose, in a way that wouldn't have the system digging into my upper lip and waking me. This is what a re-watch helped me with.
My thumbs and fingers crack badly, come winter, and then attaching the "Dreamway" to the ports is going to be a problem for me too.

Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:04 pm

My latest workaround is to attach the Bleeps (appropriately named based on my words of choice when applying) to the frame first, then attach to my nose. When things are lined up right it works well.

You know I have actually tried doing this as well and got it done quite satisfactorily without it taking a huge amount of time.
I didn't do it all the time as I only tried it to see if it could be done and I learned it could.

Pugsy wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:59 pm

Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:04 pm

My latest workaround is to attach the Bleeps (appropriately named based on my words of choice when applying) to the frame first, then attach to my nose. When things are lined up right it works well.

You know I have actually tried doing this as well and got it done quite satisfactorily without it taking a huge amount of time.
I didn't do it all the time as I only tried it to see if it could be done and I learned it could.

Are both of you doing that while upright, looking in the mirror? Doesn't the weight bother you?

ozij wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:33 pm

Are both of you doing that while upright, looking in the mirror? Doesn't the weight bother you?

How else would one apply the DreamPorts or connect to the frame? I have only been using them for a few months off and on, so if you have other suggestions I am happy to give it a go.

I think the Bleep is scathingly brilliant, but the mechanics of getting the frame attached to the DreamPorts I find frustrating at times. From what Pugsy has written and LankLefty has said about the Eclipse I am looking forward to giving them a go. Hopefully they’ll be the dogs bollocks I think they will as the original works really well for me, just makes me go full mental when I can’t get them to connect.

Jlfinkels wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:08 pm

ozij wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:33 pm

Are both of you doing that while upright, looking in the mirror? Doesn't the weight bother you?

How else would one apply the DreamPorts or connect to the frame? I have only been using them for a few months off and on, so if you have other suggestions I am happy to give it a go.

I don't need the mirror to connect the frame to the attached-to-my-nose-ports, I do that lying down.

ozij wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:59 pm

I don't need the mirror to connect the frame to the attached-to-my-nose-ports, I do that lying down.

ozij wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:33 pm

Are both of you doing that while upright, looking in the mirror? Doesn't the weight bother you?

When I tried it I was standing up in front of the mirror and the weight didn't bother me.

Now the Eclipse I stick on my nose using a mirror and then when I go to bed I attach the frame/hose while in bed. I don't need to see to attach the frame. The magnets do all the work.

My usual way to do the Eclipse is have 2 adhesives set aside and I do the trimming ahead of time. Sometimes I pre cut several at one time.
Takes me just 3 to 5 seconds to attach the Halos and then I attach the frame at the bedside. The weight still isn't an issue for me as I just let the mattress support it. I route the hose under the bed covers and up next to me and since I sleep on my side primarily the hose (both short and long) is routed under the quilt and up to my nose. Very little of the hose is ever outside the bed covers...mainly it's just the short part from my chin and quilt that exposed to room air. When I am in bed I like having the covers pulled up under my chin.

Do the magnets from the hose end need to be a certain direction like the dreamports? If you look at the connection hub, it’s curved slightly meaning you want the curve away from you so it doesn’t contact your lip. Wondering if the new design will have that curve as well or if it’s one oval shape? It was easy to find in the dark by finding the black strap and see which way it was pointing…

The Eclipse does have a "top" and "bottom" orientation. Jason mentions this in his video review.
There are little "bumps" on the Eclipse frame that are easily felt and that's the top.
Same bumps are on the frame of the original Bleep.