how does TSA screen your bi-pap machien for explosives

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:50 pm

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I miss his scientists and cave men.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:05 pm

RiverDave wrote:
Guest wrote:
SlowDave wrote:Wasn't replying to the OP
exactly my point congrats for finally getting it, <sigh> finally.

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Gotta love selective editing. Go take a nap - you've got kids to chase off your lawn tomorrow.

Goodnight, buddy

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49er · Post by **49er** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:37 am

I have traveled three times, including a trip overseas. Bipap went right through the X-Ray machine without additional screening. I had pre-check for the overseas trip but I understand that having it doesn't necessarily prevent you from being designated for extra scrutiny by the TSA.

49er

Holden4th · Post by **Holden4th** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:15 am

I am regularly stopped for screening (with the wand) as I am a sports shooter. The latest was yesterday when I went through security at Perth airport. I had just finished competing in a two day shooting event and there would have been all sorts of traces on my clothing, body and also on the perpherals (phone, wallet, etc.) that you put on a separate tray. The screens at these airports are very sophisticated and can pick up traces of all sorts of things. I'm not sure if the "x-ray machine" performs only that function. I suspect not.

I am happy to submit to these checks if it means that flying is safer.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:00 am

Holden4th wrote:I am happy to submit to these checks if it means that flying is safer.

Amen

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:12 am

springman946 wrote: explosives how do they check it besides putting it through a screening device

They swab the outside of the machine for explosive residues.

Officers may swab a piece of luggage or passengers' hands, then use ETD technology to test for explosives. The swab is placed inside the ETD unit which analyzes the content for the presence of potential explosive residue. To ensure the health of travelers, screening swabs are disposed of after each use. Since it will be used on a random basis, passengers should not expect to see the same thing at every airport or each time they travel.
https://www.tsa.gov/news/releases/2010/ ... nationwide

Explosives trace detectors (ETD) are explosive detection equipment able to detect explosives of small magnitude. The detection is accomplished by sampling non-visible "trace" amounts of particulates. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosives_trace_detector

springman946 wrote:hello I am flying on a airplane

That's good. Your wings won't be so tired when you get to your destination.

D.H. · Post by **D.H.** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:16 am

jagzoo wrote:I just flew this past week with my APAP, in its carryon case, clearly marked “medical equipment”. For the first time, I was instructed at all scanners to remove the actual machine from its case and set it separately in a bin. At one airport I was also made, after the machine had gone through the scanner, to connect the cord, find the nearest outlet, and turn on the machine. I guess to prove that it wouldn’t have blown us all to smitterens? First time in many flights that I have been required to Do any of these things. But then, it’s been almost a year since I last flew. My flights consisted of USA to Canada and return. It was on the return flight that I was required to turn the device on. Oh, I also was required to turn on both my phone and pad.

This tests that the machine is doing what it's supposed to be doing. Of course, it can still do what it's supposed to do and also do what it's not supposed to do! I guess it would be harder to build a bomb into a device when the device also has to be able to perform its intended function.

D.H. · Post by **D.H.** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:17 am

Note that this is a very general question. It applies to almost any "device" medical or otherwise, hi-tech or otherwise!

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:46 am

D.H. wrote:Note that this is a very general question.

Your answer may be "very general", but the question was specific.

Gerald? · Post by **Gerald?** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:40 pm

Holden4th wrote:I am regularly stopped for screening (with the wand) as I am a sports shooter. The latest was yesterday when I went through security at Perth airport. I had just finished competing in a two day shooting event and there would have been all sorts of traces on my clothing, body and also on the perpherals (phone, wallet, etc.) that you put on a separate tray. The screens at these airports are very sophisticated and can pick up traces of all sorts of things. I'm not sure if the "x-ray machine" performs only that function. I suspect not.

I am happy to submit to these checks if it means that flying is safer.

So what happens when the wand picks up all the traces after a shooting event, or does it not pick them up?

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:02 pm

Perhaps the equipment IDENTIFIES the chemical residue as spent, as opposed to a potential risk.
I am sure the exact particulars are confidential, as it should be.

ChicagoGranny · Post by **ChicagoGranny** » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:57 pm

Gerald? wrote:So what happens when the wand picks up all the traces after a shooting event, or does it not pick them up?

False positives are common - https://www.google.com/search?q=tsa+etd ... e&ie=UTF-8

Holden4th · Post by **Holden4th** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:23 am

Here is what I suspect happens. I place my bag on the conveyor belt for the xray machine and walk through the arch. The arch checks me for metal traces and also tries to sniff out gases from explosives, etc. It is this sniffing device that alerts security and why I am called over to the person with the wand. The wand is then run over my clothing to sniff out and detect the amount of gases. At this stage I am usually asked questions and it is when I reveal that I am a sports shooter.

At Heathrow this April I had to stand in an enclosed perspex tube reminiscent of "beam me up Scotty" which am sure also was looking for all sort of trace particles and gases.

D.H. · Post by **D.H.** » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:53 am

ChicagoGranny wrote:
D.H. wrote:Note that this is a very general question.
Your answer may be "very general", but the question was specific.

"General" means the question is not "specific" to xPAP machines or even medical devices!

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