SoClean 2 - CPAP Cleaner and Sanitizer

[sthnreb]

Does anyone have any experience with the SoClean 2 - CPAP Cleaner and Sanitizer? I believe it to be new on the market and was wondering if anyone has one and what they think of it? http://www.easybreathe.com/SoClean-2-CP ... p4177.html It would seem a lot easier to clean and sanitize the whole system if it works. So, does anyone know if it works efficiently?

[Krelvin]

Don't waste your money. What are you actually sanitizing it from?

[palerider]

Don't waste your money. What are you actually sanitizing it from?

aside from the fact that it doesn't clean anything, you just get somewhat sanitized dirt

[chunkyfrog]

These devices are a placebo. Sadly, the effect does not extend to the microbes.
In any case, they are no substitute for actually washing stuff.
If you believe they work, my cousin sells this gizmo that makes your car burn water . . .

[sthnreb]

I have many health issues not to mention age. I take so much medication to try and control everything. My one doctor told me no doctor would do surgery on me for that reason and the ITP. I do change the filter and try to clean the humidifier tank to prevent mold/mildew which I've never had. But if it worked at all it would save taking a mask apart, normally about every month, and cleaning it. If it is a waste of money as far as cleaning then I will discard any notions. It is supposed to clean the whole system. The mask goes into the machine which feeds back through the hose, humidifier and back to the cleaner. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with it or is it considered a waste of time. I also have ultra violet lighting in the HVAC supply plenums which is germicidal and also used in hospitals to clean the air. Thanks

[chunkyfrog]

The HVAC built-ins that you mention are probably a hundred times more effective than the junk gadget this snake oil outfit pushes.

[Drowsy Dancer]

This device comes up from time to time. Many people, including myself, believe it is a waste of money.

E.g.:

viewtopic/t103849/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9 ... an#p839037

[archangle]

I have many health issues not to mention age. I take so much medication to try and control everything. My one doctor told me no doctor would do surgery on me for that reason and the ITP. I do change the filter and try to clean the humidifier tank to prevent mold/mildew which I've never had. But if it worked at all it would save taking a mask apart, normally about every month, and cleaning it. If it is a waste of money as far as cleaning then I will discard any notions. It is supposed to clean the whole system. The mask goes into the machine which feeds back through the hose, humidifier and back to the cleaner. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with it or is it considered a waste of time. I also have ultra violet lighting in the HVAC supply plenums which is germicidal and also used in hospitals to clean the air. Thanks

Even if SoClean does work, you still need to disassemble and clean the mask. Ozone might kill some germs, but it can't disintegrate dirt. I disassemble and dishwash my mask every week. (not the cloth strap or any foam parts.)

The SoClean does not clean or sanitize the blower unit at all, only the water tank, hose and mask are exposed to the ozone the machine creates. However, the blower unit doesn't really need cleaning or sanitizing.

For a little extra help, get at least two masks, hoses, and water tanks, and wash one set once a week or so, dry it off, and let it sit somewhere clean and dry for a week while you use the other set of parts. If you're not using a heated hose, genuine Respironics hoses are cheap on eBay or here on cpap.com. Get several and swap often.

It's probably overkill, even for you, but Control III disinfectant from CPAP.com and other suppliers is a germicidal cleaner for most of your equipment. Be sure to read the directions. The concentrate is a bit nasty, but the diluted solution if fairly benign. It's probably not worth doing it every week, but maybe once a month or so, or when you have some sort of germ incident.

I'm skeptical about the value of SoClean, but ozone can kill germs, so it might help sanitize. I have my doubts you can find an ozone level that kills enough germs and doesn't damage the plastic in your machine, but it's possible.

[sthnreb]

Thanks folks, I'll mark that off any list. I did not know it had been around a good while. UV is a great cleaner. I even have UV light to clean my tooth brush. Seems it would work on a mask too. However UV light in close contact destroys plastics and mask type products over a little time. The brush cleaner is small and mostly covers the bristles. The UV in the HVAC works constantly by keeping the A coil clean and the air passing through the plenum. So, at least the air should be clean. I do have some of the Cpap cleaner and disinfectant I use periodically to clean the mask, whether it does any good or not. I do have several masks and hoses and swap around. Been doing it now for 17 years and just thought if this worked it might be an edge. I guess there are no easy ways or short cuts. Thanks folks, I would think this subject can be closed once again.

[palerider]

Thanks folks, I'll mark that off any list. I did not know it had been around a good while. UV is a great cleaner. I even have UV light to clean my tooth brush. Seems it would work on a mask too. However UV light in close contact destroys plastics and mask type products over a little time. The brush cleaner is small and mostly covers the bristles. The UV in the HVAC works constantly by keeping the A coil clean and the air passing through the plenum. So, at least the air should be clean. I do have some of the Cpap cleaner and disinfectant I use periodically to clean the mask, whether it does any good or not. I do have several masks and hoses and swap around. Been doing it now for 17 years and just thought if this worked it might be an edge. I guess there are no easy ways or short cuts. Thanks folks, I would think this subject can be closed once again.

it shouldn't surprise me that you're so ignorant, but it did.

UV doesn't *clean* anything, it will cause things to *die*. UVGI utilises short-wavelength ultraviolet radiation (UV-C) that is harmful to microorganisms. It is effective in destroying the nucleic acids in these organisms so that their DNA is disrupted by the UV radiation, leaving them unable to perform vital cellular functions.

the a coil in your hvac will collect dust (and dead bacteria) that make it through the filter just the same as if you didn't have that light in there.

the only reason your toothbrush is *clean* is because it gets washed every time you use it.

[LSAT]

I have many health issues not to mention age. I take so much medication to try and control everything. My one doctor told me no doctor would do surgery on me for that reason and the ITP. I do change the filter and try to clean the humidifier tank to prevent mold/mildew which I've never had. But if it worked at all it would save taking a mask apart, normally about every month, and cleaning it. If it is a waste of money as far as cleaning then I will discard any notions. It is supposed to clean the whole system. The mask goes into the machine which feeds back through the hose, humidifier and back to the cleaner. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with it or is it considered a waste of time. I also have ultra violet lighting in the HVAC supply plenums which is germicidal and also used in hospitals to clean the air. Thanks

The air goes ONE WAY...It does NOT go back through the hose into the machine and humidifier. The germs are yours. If it makes you feel better by cleaning and disinfecting...go for it, but, I agree that it is not necessary.

[sthnreb]

Yours has never surprised me. It has always been there along with your desire to be argumentative on the forum. How long now has it been since you sold your encyclopedia? I thought for a second the earlier statement you made was an intelligent statement. However, I must have made a fatal error.

[palerider]

I retired as a mechanical engineer and a member of the executive board.

well, this quote isn't completely apropos to you, but, enjoy it for what it is:

"in my experience, when someone starts a comment with their credentials, they're a goof" --AvE

(you'd have to look it up on youtube to find the source)

anyway, what does your vast experience as a mechanical engineer (I'm guessing vast, no attempt to belittle that) tell you about the cleaning properties of light, mechanically speaking.

it's true that light exerts force upon things....

oh, and you might want to note from that wikipedia article linked earlier that your uv light in your hvac system needs to be periodically removed and *CLEANED* to prevent dust buildup from reducing it's effectiveness.

so, really, that in and of itself should be sufficient evidence that there's no cleaning effected by the uv light.

cheers.

[chunkyfrog]

As a machinist, my husband observed that most engineers he worked with merely copied his designs and took credit for it.
The ones I worked with were slightly more useful, but drafters did most of the work.

[sthnreb]

I was ready to post I DO NOT carry on a conversation with someone who has no clue. However parts of your statement is factual and make sense. I also see your ability to copy and paste as you so rudely applied to me previously. Read or look up whatever you wish (on utube? You consider that intelligent?). However, you do not "clean" UV light, you replace it. A great display of ignorance. UV loses it's effectiveness over time. In the case of my system and others, I REPLACE the bulbs once a year. I can send you my used ones if you want to clean and reuse them? Perhaps you've been in the sun orlooking into UV light to long? I want to also take a second to apologize to the people that made an honest attempt at answering my question for the previous remarks of a few. Thanks for your honest evaluations of the SoClean2 cleaner. As far as I'm concerned, the case is closed.
(Not to sure he knows what a sanitary engineer is referring to.)