Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by Cowboy Casey » Sat Jul 19, 2014 4:10 pm

Sheriff Buford wrote:Sit next to him with a baseball bat. Every time you hear that noise, whack the crap outta him with the bat. That'll fix it.

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by Suze » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:18 pm

I am here! I ended up taking 2 Ativan to sleep. I had a kids party today and was indeed desperate for sleep. Of course Dh ended up taking the mask off later.

Mask is ResMed air fit p10 #62900
Model of machine: ResMed escape 58 (or s8)

I meant he just washed the water basin as per instructions.

Dh thinks the hose is dipping too low from the nightstand. The previous night he had it on the floor and it did make noise but not so loud. (& he was forced to sleep on edge of bed)

The night stand is pretty solid.
And could some of the noise be him adjusting to the machine?

Thanks so much.

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:42 pm

OK, I was just hoping you got to sleep--you must have felt horrible at 12:45 AM (or whatever time it was where you live.)
We actually hope hubby manages to keep the mask on all night--it's too hard raising kids alone!
As for the hose dipping too low, that can be helped by using a hose Buddy or a hose Boss, or a similar product.
(I have even used duck tape on the headboard--cheap!)
Some folks put an old mouse pad or a single layer of spongy shelf liner under the machine.
Somebody even put his machine on a phone book under the bed!
A small fan in the room can help with noise tolerance--I hope that helps;
I hope the whale sounds are not like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2bVbDtiX8

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by Tatooed Lady » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:45 pm

Fwiw, if the unit is below the level of the mattress (even a little), it will be quieter because noise is blocked some. I run my hose up from the machine, and let it drop down with just enough slack that I don't roll on it, but can still turn over. This is supposed to also help keep moisture from building inside the hose. When I don't have it high enough, I get rainout to some degree, and a high pitch noise from my nasal pillow. Like a chipmunk fart.
I also added a fleece sleeve over the hose, which makes it more comfortable if I get it across the neck at night, or hit it on something hard...no sound. I would assume it acts also as a bit of sound insulation. All said, I only hear my breathing at night this way. No machine, no squeeks or other weird sounds.

YMMV

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by SleepyToo2 » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:46 pm

To add to Chunkyfrog's list, I have my hose through an old chin strap that is hung over one of those hooks that you can attach to the wall but remove it without taking half the wall with it... Oh, and I have a hose cover to dampen some of the noise.

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by library lady » Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:54 pm

And if it's the mask making the noise, that is probably air leaking out due to lack of a good seal... mask liners can help with this. Also, if the mask is too loose or too tight, this can cause leaks. It often takes some time to learn the proper tightness, be sure he does a final fit when he is lying down on the bed... facial muscles move when you go from standing/sitting to lying down.

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by Suze » Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:14 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:OK, I was just hoping you got to sleep--you must have felt horrible at 12:45 AM (or whatever time it was where you live.)
Yep. It was late. About 3am for me I believe.
chunkyfrog wrote: I hope the whale sounds are not like these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2bVbDtiX8
YES! Actually it does sound like that abit! Lol. The long drawn out noise.

I will put a fan on. I can't wear ear plugs. (Tried even $$ silicone ones) my ears get irritated easily.

I think we can macguyver something.
I didn't realize there were hose covers? I would also assume that might help extend the life of the hose..
I do know he was given different nostril thingys to try. So maybe he's not using the right ones.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I will see if we can do something with the machine and the hose tonite.

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by kaiasgram » Sun Jul 20, 2014 1:41 am

Suze wrote: Model of machine: ResMed escape 58 (or s8)
Suze, glad you're still here. You said your hubby is a newbie. Is he really renting an S8 Escape? Did a DME supplier rent this machine to him? This caught my attention! First, the S8 is the previous generation of ResMed CPAP machines. S9 is the current generation and has been for at least the past four years.

In either case, the Escape is what we refer to as a "brick" -- meaning that the machine records no information that would help either the patient or the doctor to evaluate the effectiveness of the therapy. The Escape records how many hours the patient uses the machine (for insurance "compliance" reporting purposes), and that is all. We encourage newbies to insist on a fully data capable machine which records AHI (apnea counts) and leak information, both important in determining whether the CPAP treatment is working. Without this efficacy data, if the patient is not improving the doctor really has no way to know if it's the wrong pressure setting or what if any adjustments to the settings are needed.

If your hubby has not yet purchased a machine, he would do well to make sure he gets a current, fully data capable machine. The current ResMed model for the type of machine he is using (fixed pressure cpap) would be the ResMed S9 Elite. Or the S9 Autoset which can function just like the Elite, and can also be set to a range of pressures that auto-adjust to the person's needs throughout the night. Avoid any machine with "Escape" in the name.

I'm sure curious about how many Run Hours are on that rental machine. Maybe the whale noise you're hearing is the plaintive "whale" of a tired old machine?

The video tutorial link at the bottom of my signature box shows you how to access the clinical menus of the S8 machine -- check not just Total Use Hours but Total Run Hours because Use hours can be reset to zero, but Run hours cannot.

We don't want your hubby to get stuck with a brick -- much less a discontinued brick!

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by cuyahogaguy » Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:51 am

Julie wrote:Why do I think this poster is not coming back (like so many others recently who write one note - always 'desperate', watch us all do our thing and then go (if they do) to some other forum, etc?
Its pretty much like that with everything to do with WWW. Short attention span. Explains how entire countries become third world status by low information voters.

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by cuyahogaguy » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:23 am

you might try getting a sleeptest yourself to cut down on your snoring, as not to disturb your husbands recovery on xpap

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Re: Tired wife of newbi- how do we stop the whale noise!

Post by Sir NoddinOff » Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:43 pm

Jumping back to the topic of Julie's reply earlier. I think she may have jumped the gun on this a little too soon and maybe ruffled a few feathers, however she's one of the good CPAP warriors on this site and deserves a bit of leeway based on her long running devotion to the cause. I never got the sense she was calling anybody a troll. It just sounded like she wanted some form of acknowledgement, which can be disappointingly infrequent, as we all know.

Sometimes I also wonder why folks don't report back after you've spent a good chunk of time giving them the benefit of your knowledge and experience... but hey, that's the way most of the world works these days (media overload and all). Just roll with it is the best way to handle it (I think).

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