best way to reset Cicardian rhythm?

[Ruinednose]

How to reset your cicardian rhythm for better sleep. i want this..but dont have the money http://re-timer.com/

anyone ever tried reseting cicardian rhythm for better sleep?

[chunkyfrog]

Airlines try by feeding passengers at times that correspond with their destination.
Changing your chow times is pretty cheap--can't hurt to try.

[49er]

How to reset your cicardian rhythm for better sleep. i want this..but dont have the money http://re-timer.com/

anyone ever tried reseting cicardian rhythm for better sleep?

Hi Ruined Nose,

Do you have delayed or advanced phase syndrome?

You might want to look on Amazon's site for light therapy lamps. There are some that sell in the $60 range.

I had tried using one to delay my cycle but unfortunately, I couldn't stay awake. But at some point, I may try again as I feel my sleep would improve if I could stay up until 11pm or midnight.

49er

[Kennerly]

How to reset your cicardian rhythm for better sleep. i want this..but dont have the money http://re-timer.com/

anyone ever tried reseting cicardian rhythm for better sleep?

I've had some success using a light box over the winter months. Same principal as the gadget you linked to but more thoroughly studied. I bought one that stands on a tabletop or counter and is typically used for 15-30 minutes per day. It uses 3 compact fluorescents and cost around $100-200. I wouldn't be swayed by all of the emphasis on the color of the light.

In the summer as long as I get plenty of time in the Sun and adequate exercise my sleep cycle seems to stay on track without the morning light therapy.

[zoocrewphoto]

The problem with circadian rhythms is that there are many of them, and it is hard to change ALL of the at the same time.

I can make myself get up earlier, but it throws off everything else - my digestive system, my temperature, etc. I have found ways to adapt for short times (a few days). But I always feel better when I get back to my normal sleep pattern.

I gave up trying to be normal a long time ago. I am much sticking with the schedule my body wants.

[RogerSC]

Melatonin (the drug solution, of course) is supposed to be helpful in changing your circadian rhythm (or bedtime). You might try using it in combination with the other solutions that people will offer. I think that you're supposed to take it about an hour before you plan to go to bed, and it is supposed to help your body to shift into sleep mode after a while. Melatonin is used to help with jet lag, which is kind of similar, in that your trying to shift your sleep rhythm to your new local time. Anyways, you can look up more information on this on the internet.

[49er]

The problem with circadian rhythms is that there are many of them, and it is hard to change ALL of the at the same time.

I can make myself get up earlier, but it throws off everything else - my digestive system, my temperature, etc. I have found ways to adapt for short times (a few days). But I always feel better when I get back to my normal sleep pattern.

I gave up trying to be normal a long time ago. I am much sticking with the schedule my body wants.

If your schedule works for you, I wouldn't deviate from it either.

I have always gone to bed early but after getting off of psych meds, the problem worsened to where I literally felt drugged after eating dinner. So perhaps that is a metabolic and not a circadian rhythm issue which I will investigate with my primary care doctor today.

No matter what I do whether I take a med before going to bed or I don't, I only last 3 to 4 hours on the machine. I have always wondered if I could stay up until midnight or 1am if that might improve but doing so has been impossible in spite of trying various techniques.

As I mentioned previously, I tried using a light therapy lamp and couldn't stay awake. Had a hard time getting a sleep doctor to understand that.

Needless to say, I am very frustrated but I have to keep trying to find the solution.

Maybe I should go to Europe and see if that would help to reset my body clock.

49er

[zoocrewphoto]

The problem with circadian rhythms is that there are many of them, and it is hard to change ALL of the at the same time.

I can make myself get up earlier, but it throws off everything else - my digestive system, my temperature, etc. I have found ways to adapt for short times (a few days). But I always feel better when I get back to my normal sleep pattern.

I gave up trying to be normal a long time ago. I am much sticking with the schedule my body wants.

If your schedule works for you, I wouldn't deviate from it either.

I have always gone to bed early but after getting off of psych meds, the problem worsened to where I literally felt drugged after eating dinner. So perhaps that is a metabolic and not a circadian rhythm issue which I will investigate with my primary care doctor today.

No matter what I do whether I take a med before going to bed or I don't, I only last 3 to 4 hours on the machine. I have always wondered if I could stay up until midnight or 1am if that might improve but doing so has been impossible in spite of trying various techniques.

As I mentioned previously, I tried using a light therapy lamp and couldn't stay awake. Had a hard time getting a sleep doctor to understand that.

Needless to say, I am very frustrated but I have to keep trying to find the solution.

Maybe I should go to Europe and see if that would help to reset my body clock.

49er

I doubt the travel would work. I have a range of hours for my sleep. For example, I typically go to bed between 4 and 6am. So, one night my by 4am, the next night 6 am, then 4 am, then 5am, then 7am, then 4 am, etc. So, one or two hours either way doesn't feel different to me. Time change twice a year is simply one more or less hour than night. I don't notice any other change. Traveling to another time zone? I just bump to night owl there too.

I have found that I do better sleeping with the machine if I wait until at least 5am. Going to bed early usually results in the mask coming off after only 2-3 hours, while going to bed at 6am means I don't wake up until the alarm goes off. So, later sleep still results in better sleep for me.

I also sleep with the tv on. I have trouble falling asleep with it off. And I am known to sleep all night with all the lights on too. Years ago, I needed the room dark. Now, I can sleep through anything.

There are times I wish I could be a normal person. I have passed up promotions because they require morning shifts, and I just won't do them. I failed college because of my sleep cycle. I had to get up at 5am to get to classes, and I just could not fall asleep before 1am. I had memory problems and frequently forgot words. I struggled to stay awak during classes, and I struggled to pass exams and get homework done. I needed a 2.0 for every class to count toward my degree. I took one class 5 times and got a 1.9 3 of those times. I never get the 2.0. I spent 8 years in college and finally gave up. I was technically a senior but still a minimum of 2 years away from graduation as I could not get the required grades. Yet party animals seemed to be doing just fine. I didn't realize how bad my sleep was until I quit college, and finally accepted my real sleep pattern (going to bed after 3am). I felt so much better, and those memory problems stopped.

[49er]

The problem with circadian rhythms is that there are many of them, and it is hard to change ALL of the at the same time.

I can make myself get up earlier, but it throws off everything else - my digestive system, my temperature, etc. I have found ways to adapt for short times (a few days). But I always feel better when I get back to my normal sleep pattern.

I gave up trying to be normal a long time ago. I am much sticking with the schedule my body wants.

If your schedule works for you, I wouldn't deviate from it either.

I have always gone to bed early but after getting off of psych meds, the problem worsened to where I literally felt drugged after eating dinner. So perhaps that is a metabolic and not a circadian rhythm issue which I will investigate with my primary care doctor today.

No matter what I do whether I take a med before going to bed or I don't, I only last 3 to 4 hours on the machine. I have always wondered if I could stay up until midnight or 1am if that might improve but doing so has been impossible in spite of trying various techniques.

As I mentioned previously, I tried using a light therapy lamp and couldn't stay awake. Had a hard time getting a sleep doctor to understand that.

Needless to say, I am very frustrated but I have to keep trying to find the solution.

Maybe I should go to Europe and see if that would help to reset my body clock.

49er

I doubt the travel would work. I have a range of hours for my sleep. For example, I typically go to bed between 4 and 6am. So, one night my by 4am, the next night 6 am, then 4 am, then 5am, then 7am, then 4 am, etc. So, one or two hours either way doesn't feel different to me. Time change twice a year is simply one more or less hour than night. I don't notice any other change. Traveling to another time zone? I just bump to night owl there too.

I have found that I do better sleeping with the machine if I wait until at least 5am. Going to bed early usually results in the mask coming off after only 2-3 hours, while going to bed at 6am means I don't wake up until the alarm goes off. So, later sleep still results in better sleep for me.

I also sleep with the tv on. I have trouble falling asleep with it off. And I am known to sleep all night with all the lights on too. Years ago, I needed the room dark. Now, I can sleep through anything.

There are times I wish I could be a normal person. I have passed up promotions because they require morning shifts, and I just won't do them. I failed college because of my sleep cycle. I had to get up at 5am to get to classes, and I just could not fall asleep before 1am. I had memory problems and frequently forgot words. I struggled to stay awak during classes, and I struggled to pass exams and get homework done. I needed a 2.0 for every class to count toward my degree. I took one class 5 times and got a 1.9 3 of those times. I never get the 2.0. I spent 8 years in college and finally gave up. I was technically a senior but still a minimum of 2 years away from graduation as I could not get the required grades. Yet party animals seemed to be doing just fine. I didn't realize how bad my sleep was until I quit college, and finally accepted my real sleep pattern (going to bed after 3am). I felt so much better, and those memory problems stopped.

Zoocrew,

I was jokingly suggesting that I should go to Europe to see if that would help with my sleep since my body clock seems to be on their time and not east coast time. Of course, if by some miracle, this worked, then I would have to deal with adjusting to east cost time when I came home.

As I previously mentioned, because your schedule works for you even though you have obviously made compromises, I wouldn't change a thing. If my schedule worked for me and I was getting enough sleep, I wouldn't change anything either and would simply find a job that started as early as possible.

[Ruinednose]

whats the best lamp therapy thing? which ones have you tried?

[49er]

whats the best lamp therapy thing? which ones have you tried?

Hi Ruined Nose,

I tried this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Lightphoria-000LU ... ht+therapy

I like it because it has three different settings in which you can set the timer for 15, 30, 45 minute increments.

But please keep in mind that I have not used it to the point where I have been able to reset my circadian rhythm due for the reasons I previously mentioned. However, I did notice it was quite helpful moodwise.

If you decide to purchase it, there is a 30 day money back guarantee. You would be responsible for paying shipping.

Best of luck.

49er

[Ruinednose]

thanks to all

thanks 49er for the link


now i wouldnt know about approcahing this, can this be done with a doctors help?
what would a sleep specialist reply to "i want to reset my circardian rhythm" how can i do it/?

[49er]

thanks to all

thanks 49er for the link


now i wouldnt know about approcahing this, can this be done with a doctors help?
what would a sleep specialist reply to "i want to reset my circardian rhythm" how can i do it/?

Hi Ruinednose,

I would think most sleep specialists could help you with this. Personally, if I were to make an appointment with someone, just to be on the safe side, I would verify ahead of time that this is an issue they are familiar with.

49er

[Woody]

I can't rember the name of it but there is another cheep device made for this. What it does
is start to turn on a small light 30 min. before you get up. But it's not all at once it starts
as a very dim glow and takes 30 min to reach full brightness just like what happens in nature.
One other thing that some people use is use a much reduced lighting level evenings. And as our
eyes are more effected by blue light like we often get from our computer screens there is a
program available to remove the blue light from your computer screen at night , makes for a really
horrible picture but is suposed let your brain really believe it's night. Also some people find that
even all these small leds we have on everything from the dishwasher, phone, coffee maker even
our cpap all have a negative effect on our sleep. Yea that blue led on my cpap may be interfering a little
with my sleep using a red one would have been a better idea.

[Islandwoman]

Also some people find that
even all these small leds we have on everything from the dishwasher, phone, coffee maker even
our cpap all have a negative effect on our sleep.

I have a problem with bright led lights. Especially on a set of Bluetooth ear buds. I got some small Mylar stickers from one of my granddaughters and then bought more sizes at a craft shop. They easily block the light and can be removed with no residue. Great for home and motels when traveling.