Reviews of new AirFit P10 Resmed nasal pillow mask thread

[ems]

I really like the Airfit P10... the only thing and it's turning out to be a big problem, is that no matter what I've tried I can't seem to get the straps to loosen up. The top strap is extremely tight and the bottom strap digs into my neck. This is after over a month of use. Other than the suggestions on this thread, has anyone come up with another solution? I'm not crafty so haven't tried taking it apart, altho I think that's the next step.

I've gone back to using the Swift FX for her which is fine... but I'd so much rather use the Airfit for all the reasons discussed here. So, any additional suggestions most welcome! Thanks.

[happydaz]

I really like the Airfit P10... the only thing and it's turning out to be a big problem, is that no matter what I've tried I can't seem to get the straps to loosen up. The top strap is extremely tight and the bottom strap digs into my neck. This is after over a month of use. Other than the suggestions on this thread, has anyone come up with another solution? I'm not crafty so haven't tried taking it apart, altho I think that's the next step.

Maybe this will help bc my mask was tight also. I wrapped it around a dining room chair for 3 days. It almost torn apart but since I couldn't use it the way it was, I really didn't care. It actually helped a lot and didn't tear. I also changed pillows (bed) - a memory pillow doesn't push the side against my head as much. I just ordered one more Airfit P10; and will do the same thing.

[AfibApnea]

This is one long…………….product endorsement (in the best sense of the word).

Because I’m awaiting my sleep lab, I’m holding off on getting an AirFit P10, but when the time comes… (I just hope my large head isn’t going to be a problem.)

In the meantime, I contacted ResMed (online chat) regarding their great P10 venting technology. The person I chatted with had no idea what I was talking about. (I can forward the contents of the chat if you don’t believe me.)

Like everyone else the problem I have with my Swift FX is the mini-hurricane it generates: enough to emulate frostbite on the upper arm and more than enough to drive away any human or cat from the bed.

So:

1) I’m very curious to know if anyone can describe or photograph, in terms that relate to the Swift FX—or vice versa--exactly how the venting is different?

2) More to the point, are there any DIYers out there that have figured out a modification to the Swift FX that redirects or in some way improves the Swift FX air flow issues (and of course, doesn’t compromise its effectiveness).

[bavinck]

When using the swift fx I attached a swift nano hose to the pillows. The vent on that is much more adjustable than the pillows hose, and then I easily redirected the hurricane away from my wife.

[scw1604]

Hi everybody,

I've been using Swift FX and recently switched to AirFit P10 because of wear and tear on the FX headgear.

Was working fine for the first night, but when I woke up from the 2nd night, I realised that there were blood residue inside my nose. Subsequent nights same thing happened. During one of the days while I was working, there were blood flowing out of my nose. Anybody encounter that?

Stop using it for now and thinking of ordering a replacement headgear for the Swift FX.

[AfibApnea]

When using the swift fx I attached a swift nano hose to the pillows. The vent on that is much more adjustable than the pillows hose, and then I easily redirected the hurricane away from my wife.

I searched the ResMed site and got no hits on "nano hose".

So (I assume) you had a Swift Nano FX and a Swift FX; managed to remove the hoses from each; and substitute them?

How did you safely remove the hoses?

And, by the way, what is the difference between the Swift FX and the Swift Nano FX? (The ResMed site is surprisingly uninformative about their products.)

[bavinck]

When using the swift fx I attached a swift nano hose to the pillows. The vent on that is much more adjustable than the pillows hose, and then I easily redirected the hurricane away from my wife.

I searched the ResMed site and got no hits on "nano hose".

So (I assume) you had a Swift Nano FX and a Swift FX; managed to remove the hoses from each; and substitute them?

How did you safely remove the hoses?

And, by the way, what is the difference between the Swift FX and the Swift Nano FX? (The ResMed site is surprisingly uninformative about their products.)

The Nano is the nasal mask version of the swift fx. Same headgear on both, same connection for cushion (pillows or nasal cushion) for both to hose, same hose for both, the nano hose connector that has the vent and connects to the nasal cushion has a ball joint swivel so it is much more adjustable (directional) for the venting. Simply buy the Swift FX Nano hose (comes with the venting joint that connects to the pillows) and attach that to your existing pillows/headgear setup. The circular connection that you fit the pillows onto the hose for the Swift pillows is exactly the same size as the circular connection to connect the nano cushion to the nano hose. Thus, swift headgear connects to swift pillows (like you normally have) which then connects to the nano hose. Should be able to just buy the Swift FX nano hose from CPAP.com.

[The Latinist]

Just got my AirFit P10 (ordered from cpap.com with free return insurance). Tried it out for a few minutes, and almost couldn't get the thing to leak. At first with the different resistance I felt like I was suffocating. I had to breathe very deliberately for several minutes before it began to feel normal (very different from my Quattro Air, which was fine from the first breath). It is light, much cooler, and it will allow me to cuddle with my wife again. My only concerns are 1) whether I'll be able I prevent/control mouth breathing and 2) whether my nares will hold up to the pressure. I'll post again in a few days when I've had more experience.

ETA: Had my first night with the AirFit P10 last night; my 95% leak was 0 L/min and my AHI was my lowest yet. My results are here.

[Catlizg]

Since starting on CPAP a month ago I have been very happy with the Resmed Swift FX Bella. Can't tolerate the feel of head straps so the ear loops were perfect for me. I was in my DME's showroom, saw the P10 and thought maybe I could tolerate the head strap. Since I'm not eligible for a new mask for quite a few months I purchased it outright from a private seller. I felt like a kid at Christmas when the box arrived and immediately had the mask out for comparisons with my Bella.

First thing I noticed is that the straps are tolerable to me and since the pillows form such a good seal I can wear the straps quite loosely. The P10 is significantly lighter and the air coming out of the vents is barely noticeable. In terms of noise, I never found the Bella to make any noise other than if there was a significant leak, so I'd consider them equal. The construction of the P10 is superb making cleaning a breeze. I did find the straps annoying when I had a headache the other day so switched back to the Bella. I can easily see myself alternating between the two.

If there were ear loops for the P10 I would say it was absolutely the perfect mask for me. In a perfect Cathy world, Resmed will shortly p come out with an adaptation for P10 ear loops as it did with the Swift. In the meantime, I continue to consider myself very lucky to have had so few issues as a newbie. Both these masks rate an A from me.

[The Latinist]

I just wrote up my review of the P10 for cpap.com, and figured I might as well post it here, too.

Summary:

The ResMed AirFit™ P10 is a small, lightweight and quiet nasal pillow mask with a great seal and unobstructed views that remains comfortable even on hot summer nights. It has improved my therapy by providing me with a virtually leak-proof seal. Its only draw-back is its one-size-fits-all headgear which may make it difficult for those with larger or smaller heads to obtain a comfortable fit. I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a nasal pillow mask.

Pros:

* Size & Weight

The P10 is the smallest and lightest CPAP mask now available. At 1.6 oz, one can almost forget that it is there. Its compact design allows unobstructed vision and even accommodates glasses for those who like to read at bed-time. It does not significantly block the mouth, and minimizes skin contact for sultry summer days.

* Comfort

The P10 nasal pillows are soft and comfortable. The mask's design is smooth and ergonomically-contoured, and the straps are mounted in a system that minimizes bulk and even keeps the strap off the cheeks. The headgear, while it has some adjustability issues mentioned below, is soft and comfortable. And the small size of both mask and headgear make it very comfortable to wear even in the summer.

* Quiet

One of the P10's most-advertised features is its venting system, which features a woven-mesh diffuser to disperse air quietly and without turbulence. It is so quiet that I am actually able to hear the sound of ResMed S9's pump over my exhalations. I have noticed a slight whistling on exhale, but this is far better than the rasping wheeze of most masks.

* Seal

The best thing about the P10 is, for me, its excellent fit. After struggling with constant leaks with my previous mask (the Quattro™ Air full-face mask), the difference was dramatic and immediate. I consistently see 95th %ile leak figures of 0.0 L/min, and my average leak over the week I've used the mask has been 0.2 L/min. I can lie on my side or on my back, even cuddle with my wife without springing massive leaks. It's been nothing short of amazing.

Cons:

* One-size-fits-all headgear

As many people have said, the one-size fits all headgear is the P10's weakest point. For those with large heads, it may result in an uncomfortable pressure on the nares, especially at first. I have also heard that the strap stretches with time and could become too loose for those with smaller heads. The split-strap adjustment is actually a clever idea, and allows for fine-tuning of the fit; but the headgear would definitely benefit from the addition of a velcro adjustment for those whose heads are at the edges of the bell curve.

[ems]

As many people have said, the one-size fits all headgear is the P10's weakest point. For those with large heads, it may result in an uncomfortable pressure on the nares, especially at first. I have also heard that the strap stretches with time and could become too loose for those with smaller heads. The split-strap adjustment is actually a clever idea, and allows for fine-tuning of the fit; but the headgear would definitely benefit from the addition of a velcro adjustment for those whose heads are at the edges of the bell curve.

I think you summed this up very well. However, I wish the straps would stretch. I've been using mine for two months and don't feel even a little stretching, and my head isn't big. My nose is sore on one side and it's getting worse instead of better. I keep hoping it will stretch... but not so far.

I don't see how a person with a bigger than normal size head could use this without some type of modification.

[The Latinist]

I've been using mine for two months and don't feel even a little stretching, and my head isn't big. My nose is sore on one side and it's getting worse instead of better. I keep hoping it will stretch... but not so far.

I don't see how a person with a bigger than normal size head could use this without some type of modification.

I haven't been using mine long enough to know if it will stretch for me, but Pugsy tells me that her strap stretched and that she's been washing it hoping to shrink it. I have a size 7-⅞ head, and I found it uncomfortably tight the first night. But with some adjustments to the split strap I was able to tolerate it. I've had tenderness throughout the week, especially in the morning, but my nares seem slowly to be adapting; this morning I had almost no tenderness, and within an hour or so it was gone. Hopefully this trend continues!

[chunkyfrog]

I wish that headgear documentation had some reference to hat size,
since hats are sold by size, and finding your hat size is not a difficult matter.
With my little head, (size 6½), the Airfit P10 fits wonderfully,
but people with more grey matter may require a bigger box to store it.
As a mask loosens up as it is stretched and soiled, we are told that
washing the headgear will refresh the stretch and return it to original size.
Has anyone observed this? --and to what degree?
I'm wondering because, I want to be ready

[zorki1c]

I used the Swift FX for nearly a year. I got AHI reading consistently below 2 but I hated the exhaust vents on the mask. Got the Airfit P10 about six weeks ago. Initially I used the Medium pillow (like I did on the Swift FX) But I felt like my breathing was restricted so I switched to the large pillow. I love not having to deal with the exhaust. At first not having a hose swivel bothered me but I got over it. Ive had more 0.0 AHI readings since switching to the P10 that I had in a year with the Swift FX. The nicest thing is I sometimes have to be careful if I have to get up at night because I forget I'm wearing a mask and darn near pull the S9 off the dresser? My DME had an open house a few weeks ago and some RES Med reps were there. I told them how much I like the P10 and they indicated they are getting great feedback from most users.

[RobertS975]

Total agreement... I frequently have to check to see if I remembered to put it on before I fell asleep!