would there be any intrest in a open source CPAP machine?

[space45]

I was thinking it would be cool to do a open source CPAP, APAP, VPAP and what ever machine

all open source with readily available parts and Arduino based controller

would hope the writer of sleepyhead would help with the data storage formatting based on resmed data format

would like to make a full function unit, 3D printed case and have wifi or other wireless options for networking the unit to a computer network as well as hart rate and o2 levels with a open source o2 sensor and other cool options like built in EEG and bio feed back all wireless as well. would like to have a home sleep lab type unit if possible

open to feed back on this idea

[Todzo]

I was thinking it would be cool to do a open source CPAP, APAP, VPAP and what ever machine

CPAP would be pretty easy, indeed I have one of these planned for a backup/travel machine

all open source with readily available parts and Arduino based controller

So much good hardware available these days. Thinking about Raspberry Pi for controller myself.

would hope the writer of sleepyhead would help with the data storage formatting based on resmed data format

I think we should start from scratch but integrate with SleepyHead. Where the data comes from and the storage format can be anything you simply need a port.

would like to make a full function unit, 3D printed case and have wifi or other wireless options for networking the unit to a computer network as well as hart rate and o2 levels with a open source o2 sensor and other cool options like built in EEG and bio feed back all wireless as well. would like to have a home sleep lab type unit if possible

open to feed back on this idea

c/o :

http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/

http://www.mccauslandcenter.sc.edu/CRNL/tools/ads1298

[BlackSpinner]

And who will pay to get FDA approval?

[space45]

no FDA approval needed, it would be use at your own risk

the end user will be the one putting it together, he will be buying the parts or at best a kit. one could print their own case and source the electronic and hardware parts on the net or local suppliers

it is open source, no government involvement at all, one build and uses it themselves, it would not be a for resale type thing.

like a home flight sim does not need any government inspections or approvals no matter how big and fancy it is, but does if used in a commercial environment for certifying pilots.

I would like to make a compete and proper home based sleep lab setup for guys to use for tweaking and making sure their set up to the best possible setting, and for the DIY guys to have fun making and using a sleep lab so they do not have to be tied to a doc and what he says

one night sleep test in a strange bed with wires and stuff on you, not sure about any of you but I take 3 nights minimum to get used to a new bed and that is with out wires and connectors all over. then there is not all nights are the same so a home based sleep lab would allow for you to use your own bed, wireless connection and look at date over weeks and months to get things dialed in just right, not to mention all the great data one can take to the doc.

it would also be good for countries where sleep apnea may not be covered or where money is tight and one can not afford the expensive units


I have nothing against raspberry pi for a controller, what ever works best and will be easy to use.
glad to see some like minded guys here.
I was thinking start with a plain simple brick and work our way up to a top of the line sleep lab unit. would be cool to make one the sleep labs would envy

[chunkyfrog]

This sounds like a project to bring affordable therapy to third world apnea patients--or those in red states.

[space45]

it would indeed be good for use in 3rd world counties, not sure about the red states, they all seem to be in the black and doing well with lower unemployment, it is the blue states I would be worried about seeing as they seem to be loosing jobs and the deepest in debt. or am I wrong on this?

I am up in Canada so what do I know

This sounds like a project to bring affordable therapy to third world apnea patients--or those in red states.

[BlackSpinner]

no FDA approval needed, it would be use at your own risk

You are talking medical equipment. The moment you start selling and describe what it is you are selling you will have all the big suppliers on your tail along with the government.

[space45]

your missing the point, no sales of finished product or plans, also it will be world wide, also I am not in the US of A so FDA would not apply. I live in Canada, also I am talking open source so anyone could buy a kit or all the parts for it and not buy a thing from me, it is free to download and build. one could buy parts say from me IF I decide to offer them. they would be printed parts, motors, electronics or other PARTS for YOU to build it.

I may offer parts for sale but I am not selling any units or plans for units. totally open source, free to anyone that wants to make, build, mod, or for whatever they want to use the info for

no FDA approval needed, it would be use at your own risk

You are talking medical equipment. The moment you start selling and describe what it is you are selling you will have all the big suppliers on your tail along with the government.

[planted]

Fantastic idea!

[john.michael]

I was thinking it would be cool to do a open source CPAP, APAP, VPAP and what ever machine

all open source with readily available parts and Arduino based controller

would hope the writer of sleepyhead would help with the data storage formatting based on resmed data format

would like to make a full function unit, 3D printed case and have wifi or other wireless options for networking the unit to a computer network as well as hart rate and o2 levels with a open source o2 sensor and other cool options like built in EEG and bio feed back all wireless as well. would like to have a home sleep lab type unit if possible

open to feed back on this idea

Wow, the Linus Torvalds of xPAP walks among us!! Save this post. I love the sound of this.

[Goofproof]

This sounds like a project to bring affordable therapy to third world apnea patients--or those in red states.

You have it backwards, the Red States get ASV machines Free, The other States get Bricks, and pay for the Red States machines, and their Bricks. Got to protect that 52% vote, they can't afford to lose any more brain cells.

In the intern camps, people will be housed in one building and all will be treated by one Black and Decker Leaf Blower, made in China. Jim

[Todzo]

I think that the basic design of CPAP machines took some wrong turns starting about 2000 or so. The result is machines whose usability numbers are pitiful.

I think I know what would work best for me at this point. I will never get them to make it so I have to build it. Only way.

I guess I am not alone.

Open Source is the only way we can do very good super computing, computer forensics and security, and many other things. You need a lot of freedom to do many things. Creativity must not be stifled.

That cannot happen where a few direct the black operations in the dark.

[SleepWrangler]

I guess I am not alone.

Open Source is the only way we can do very good super computing, computer forensics and security, and many other things. You need a lot of freedom to do many things. Creativity must not be stifled.

I think you are still alone unfortunately. To spearhead an open source hardware project requires a level of dedication only a crusader can muster. In the beginning when ideas are still germinating you're unconsciously incompetent. Everything is fun and new. The crusader does not understand or know how to do something and does not necessarily recognize the deficit (borrowing from "Four stages of competence").

It's only when the concepts are mastered and the hard work is complete and you've gained unconscious competence you realize the true cost of your creation. For open source hardware you have to discount the value of development to zero, discount the hours of implementation and testing to zero, discount the specialized tools to zero, and often production in quantities of one is more expensive than ready made alternatives (shipping costs for parts alone are usually the gotcha).

If your creation is an implementation of new ideas then the process and end result can be rewarding because the costs don't matter. If the goal is to re-produce existing readily available hardware at a lower cost then good luck. It won't work. Even kickstarter projects implemented by dedicated crusaders require volume to be worthwhile.

[Todzo]

... as well as hart rate and o2 levels with a open source o2 sensor and other cool options like built in EEG and bio feed back all wireless as well. would like to have a home sleep lab type unit if possible

open to feed back on this idea

One thing I would love to see is an open source project where polysomnogram like data is taken on individuals over the long term.

No one seems to know how we really sleep night after week after month after season after year.

It would be nice to know!!!

[SleepWrangler]

One thing I would love to see is an open source project where polysomnogram like data is taken on individuals over the long term.

The OpenEEG project has gone quiet. The mailing list has been taken over by spambots.

OpenEEG: http://openeeg.sourceforge.net/doc/
Olimex OpenEEG Hardware: https://www.olimex.com/Products/EEG/OpenEEG/

Work appears to have morphed into computer -> brain projects:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/op ... terface-fo

Or commercial projects (not too expensive):
http://emotiv.com/