M Series Auto Available!

limpy · Post by **limpy** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:09 am

I called cpap.com to check on the status of the m series auto. they say they are not allowed to list it but are approved to sell it pre launch by word of mouth only. Not sure if it is ok to post that here but I thought everyone who is waiting should know. They say it will ship early next week until they run out of their initial batch.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:25 am

Go, Geany Pigs, Go, your day has arrived. Jim

Paul B · Post by **Paul B** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:28 am

It's fairly expensive at around $875. with humidifier. The comparable Resmed S8 Vantage is $765, about $110. less expensive.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:38 am

[quote="Paul B"]It's fairly expensive at around $875. with humidifier. The comparable Resmed S8 Vantage is $765, about $110. less expensive.

Rastaman · Post by **Rastaman** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:44 pm

Yeah, don't try logical stuff like prices around here buddy. We're stuck on Respironics til the day we die for whatever reason we have decided long ago. Now, we'll NOT buy a Resmed product because they're supposed to go up 40% on prices eventually someday but we will not pay less money for a Resmed product because we hate all Resmed products except for their masks. And this all comes down to C-flex. We want it. If the machine doesn't have it, we'll pay kazillions for it. But hopefully a decent price

Weeeeeee! Is C-flex really worth $110? I don't know. But it doesn't matter anyway. I'm getting the tattoo next myself. It's going to say Respironics forever. I'm stoked!

P.S. I'm only mildly teasing. No offense meant. Just fun.

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:11 pm

No problem, Rastaman. I understand people's sentiments. No one likes to think they are paying an artificially generated higher price for anything. I think Resmed should have thought this through a little better before their announcement, but it all comes down to maximizing shareholder value. I am not a shareholder by the way.

On the other hand, it doesn't make any sense to cut off your nose to spite your face. If you need to purchase an Auto in the next 30 days or so, and the Resmed algorithm works well for you, why not save $100. or so. Just my opinion. Others will decide differently.

GoofyUT · Post by **GoofyUT** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:12 pm

For those that have been whining about ResMed's shameless gluttony and practices in restraint of trade, if Paul B's figures are correct, Respironics just DID whack its loyal followers with a TWENTY FIVE PERCENT increase for the same old auto technology packaged to look like an Oreck air filter. ResMed ain't done nothing yet!

Like I've always said CAVEAT EMPTOR.

Now, quit yer whining, fer chrisskes!

Chuck

Paul B · Post by **Paul B** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:14 pm

The Guest post two up is from me.

Rastaman · Post by **Rastaman** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:19 pm

Interesting point of view GoofyUT. I hadn't thought about it quite that way yet. But you're right. What's Resmed really planning? EPR in auto mode for more? Who knows? And who really cares? This really does come down to Chevy Vs. Ford....well, sorta. Those two are pretty comperable but I really think we're talking about better brands than even Ford and Chevy here. Afterall, Resmed and Respironics are the best and therefore more like a Honda/Toyota or something equivalent that drives FOREVER with very little maintanence. Does that stop people from buying a Ford or Chevy even though on consumerreports.org they aren't rated anywhere near as high as some competitors. No way! Once people get sold on their brand it's like prying a tooth out. I think everyone sees my point. If not, check out vehicles on consumerreports.org. I don't buy ANYTHING without checking their first. I doubt they have CPAP though.

And keep in mind I plan on owning (in relative terms) a Honda, Toyota, Chevy and a Ford eventually. If not, just the Honda and the Toyota will be fine. Then I can switch back and forth. Same for a mask. Back and forth. Aptiva then Mirage Ultra FF. Resmed, then Respironics.

Goofproof · Post by **Goofproof** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:41 pm

[quote=" If you need to purchase an Auto in the next 30 days or so, and the Resmed algorithm works well for you, why not save $100. or so. Just my opinion. Others will decide differently.

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Lets see New wonder "M" APAP, $875 Old New Replaced APAP, $709 cost savings $166 or 24%. I just take that $166.00 our of my right pocket and put it in my left pocket. All I have lost is, the right to field test the wonderful "M" APAP, I've lost bragging rights, but I have gained wise consumer rights credits. I've lost 4 square inches of my night stand, which still has room for 5 more old style REMstar APAPs, I can jump up and down on my endtables, because they are American made of 2X4's and 2X6's I could park my car on them.

I get the same treatment everyone wants, (C-Flex) the same warrenty. So it really comes down to Save $ 166.00 Give up Bragging rights, buy a machine with known performance.

Oh! I forgot one more big downside to my New Old Machine, I have to carry that extra 1.5 pounds of weight into the house from the UPS Truck., I'm in pretty bad shape but I can handle that too because I can save all the wind I would have used up, Bragging! Jim

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Rastaman · Post by **Rastaman** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:41 pm

So, there's light at the end of the tunnel. What Jim is so delicately saying is that he'll stick with NON-M Series because regular Remstar Auto with C-flex is tried and true. No reason to upgrade without a real reason to AND it costs less. Works for me.

Will your DME give you new customers (and seasoned ones too.) M series models if you need APAP? Probably. Mine didn't but that's what I originally requested based on the Remstar Plus M Series w/C-flex that I was given FIRST. Now I have an S8 Vantage and life is good. I can't complain. And even if I did, no one would listen.

Moral to the story: Whether you buy a Resmed or Respironics people are happy but not too quick to try out something new unless there is a good reason to do so and I mean other than relative size. Travellers might want the smallest on the market but if that's the case then they want a PB Goodknight if they're ok with no C-flex and if they want C-flex they have to get the M series or the regular xPAP.

YOU are an educated individual. If nothing more than educated in life, by life. Only YOU know what is right for you. And most people, myself included, are going to be very satisfied with whatever they got themselves. We're sometimes even work to convince ourselves that we've made the right decision. But I don't think that's necessary here. We're talking about bells and whistles here on similar products. Is my boombox better than yours just because I have a digital tuner and you have the dial tuner? Nope. Yours works just like mine but just slightly different. We get the same effect relatively in the end.

I will be curious to hear from those of you who buy the M Series Remstar Auto w/C-flex. From what I've read here and in polls is that the M series is louder than the original. And virtually the same in every other way other than size. I'll bet the new one is cool if you need a new one. But to get a new one just because there's a new one out, especially if you have the model right before this one might be silly. But only YOU can decide that.

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roadwarrior · Post by **roadwarrior** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:05 pm

Well I'll tell ya'll. I've been using a D100H (the M series model without Cflex) now for a few weeks as I'm still awaiting the D200H (the model WITH Cflex) to come in from my DME. It is due this week so I hope to get it on Friday. It is NOT a louder machine. I admit I'm NOT talking about the APAP....it's a CPAP, so maybe it's not up for discussion. However it is a damn site lighter and less combersome to carry around airports week after week than ANY other CPAP there is. I don't give a rats patootie who makes it. That is what the M brought to the table for me. I travel for a living so it matters MOST. It isn't NOT noisy, it is great as far as being reliable with NO rainout no matter where I travel. It is very compact, and if it does look like a Oreck vacuum filter ( never saw one) so be it. I like it's svelt dimensions. The comparable CPAP from Resmed (I believe it's the R8 Elite) is also a fine machine. Had my DME carried them I may well have had one of those. However I do feel RedMed has the mask technology wrapped up....and I feel that Respironics is the current champ in CPAP's overall........just my 2 cents.........

Snoredog · Post by **Snoredog** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:23 pm

Prices are always higher when the machine first comes out due to demand, but competition will eventually drive that price down.

I paid $960 for my Resmed Spirit & 2i humidifier when I purchased it back in 2003 and another $130 for the software.

People complain about paying $3 bucks a gallon for gas and have no problem paying $3.95 for a 20oz White Chocolate Moca Venti at Starbucks.

wading thru the muck! · Post by **wading thru the muck!** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:32 pm

Snoredog wrote:
People complain about paying $3 bucks a gallon for gas and have no problem paying $3.95 for a 20oz White Chocolate Moca Venti at Starbucks.

LOL! my decaf quad venti non-fat latte costs me $4.85.

I agree the price of the M series will go down...but I can't say as much about my Starbucks Latte.

Newbie · Post by **Newbie** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:48 pm

These guys have it listed for $695 without humidifier. No combo prices listed, so I guess you have to tack it on separately =>

http://www.bestcpapprice.com/Respironic ... 21-93.html

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