Autism and maternal apnea

[BlackSpinner]

I have heard that the vaccines cause autism. They start giving babies vaccines right after their born with in like a week at most.

You are so out of date and illogical and incompetent it isn't funny. All of the crap has been debunked decades ago.
Go and spew you agenda somewhere else, basically crawl back into your hole.

[BlackSpinner]

The whole vaccines-cause-autism was disproved years ago and the rest of what you say about vaccines as well. Would you prefer to get polio and live in an iron lung forever? Would you be happy to have measles and become sterile? What does it take to get it through some peoples' skulls that these programs are for the BENEFIT of everyone?

Not only was it debunked, it was fraud in order to sell a product.

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/A ... /Home.html

[Lazer1234]

The whole vaccines-cause-autism was disproved years ago and the rest of what you say about vaccines as well. Would you prefer to get polio and live in an iron lung forever? Would you be happy to have measles and become sterile? What does it take to get it through some peoples' skulls that these programs are for the BENEFIT of everyone?

Not only was it debunked, it was fraud in order to sell a product.

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/A ... /Home.html

Vaccines are not good for everyone, those who had narcolepsy of swine flu vaccine are not happy. There is now evidence that the vaccine causes narcolepsy.

My wife's niece got sick weeks after her swine flu shot at age 2. A nerve disorder that breaks down nerve cells in the brain. She is now 5 years, and is in a wheelchair, can not walk, not talk, not even lift his head. She has now come to the point when breathing begins to be affected, she will now have central apnea and oxygenation goes down to 60%. Have now received oxygen as well.
Will probably soon receive cpap and when her lungs can not breathe on your own, it becomes ventilator that breathes for her.
The end will probably be a pneumonia that she can not cope with.

[Julie]

I am very sorry about your wife's niece... terrible thing to have happened and I hope she doesn't get worse. Very much can go wrong very quickly in medicine because there is only so much we know. But if you consider how much is known now right down to the genetic and cellular levels, it's amazing, but no team of doctors and no university or even international set of brains can be 100% knowledgable about every gene or cell in an individual's body because people are not machines (and since when are even machines perfect all the time?). Should science never try anything beyond what they know at a given time?

Should we say "well, we know enough now to keep so many people feeling 'not bad' some of the time... because it's better than nothing and no one new will be hurt"? I don't think anyone would really want that to happen and it makes no sense at all. Of course there will always be individuals who have unexpected and medically unpredictable reactions, but those people (very sad for them... no question) are usually a tiny fraction of the millions who have e.g. had vaccines with no problem at all, and we now no longer have things like the polio, smallpox, diphtheria to kill off even more children the way they did less than 100 years ago. It would be criminal not to support science because of the unpredictable few bad reactions and hopefully one day they won't occur, but right now vaccines are the best known way to protect so many children from trouble and I doubt if you'd really want to not have them. And science is working hard to improve them every day.

[BlackSpinner]

The whole vaccines-cause-autism was disproved years ago and the rest of what you say about vaccines as well. Would you prefer to get polio and live in an iron lung forever? Would you be happy to have measles and become sterile? What does it take to get it through some peoples' skulls that these programs are for the BENEFIT of everyone?

Not only was it debunked, it was fraud in order to sell a product.

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/A ... /Home.html

Vaccines are not good for everyone, those who had narcolepsy of swine flu vaccine are not happy. There is now evidence that the vaccine causes narcolepsy.

My wife's niece got sick weeks after her swine flu shot at age 2. A nerve disorder that breaks down nerve cells in the brain. She is now 5 years, and is in a wheelchair, can not walk, not talk, not even lift his head. She has now come to the point when breathing begins to be affected, she will now have central apnea and oxygenation goes down to 60%. Have now received oxygen as well.
Will probably soon receive cpap and when her lungs can not breathe on your own, it becomes ventilator that breathes for her.
The end will probably be a pneumonia that she can not cope with.

Yes there are a few people who react to drugs. More people have died from aspirin. Many babies have died from whooping cough passed on by idiot anti vaxers then have actual been harmed by vaccines.
Where are your documented peer reviewed studies of the narcolepsy myth?

[Lazer1234]

http://www.nature.com/news/narcolepsy-c ... se-1.14413
http://med.stanford.edu/psychiatry/narc ... tnews.html

[BlackSpinner]

http://www.nature.com/news/narcolepsy-c ... se-1.14413
http://med.stanford.edu/psychiatry/narc ... tnews.html

So basically you had the choice - get narcolepsy from having the flu (and maybe die) or use the NOW NOT IN USE vaccine with live virus bits and get narcolepsy.

[borgready]

Vaccines may have their benefits. But you put yourself at risk when you take them. When your a small child your not making that decision so you get the shot shoved down your throat whether you like it or not. Many parents(young and dumb) are clueless about the risks of the vaccines and trust the doctors who say the vaccines are 100% safe. Many doctors are taught in school that vaccines are good and they will swear on their life by them(well unless they look into the vaccines). Many of these doctors are not geniuses they are trying to make a living so they go with the flow and do as the systems tells them. Why screw up a $200,000 a year job. You see on this forum where many are upset with the lack of care with the doctors? The doctors do what they are told and follow doctor protocol that is dictated to them by the medical establishment and they do what they have to do and nothing less. Many people get screwed up by the medical system with doctors that are there for the money. Its a business for them. Vaccines are known to have autoimmune side effects. Thats the way they are designed. They have to put other things in the shot like adjuvants to make the shots effective. Putting this other stuff in the shots causes bad autoimmune reactions. The mercury and aluminum are not brain or nerve friendly so they cause some level of damage just by being in the persons system. If a person can't remove the toxins or contain them, then they likely get autism which is basically mild brain damage. For a child of 1,2 or3 years old there is critical brain development going on. Anything that messes with that causes mental impairment. So what you see is a huge push to get all the vaccines by 3 or 4. And they keep trying to add more to the list. The first shot may not make them ill, but after several rounds the immune system gets highly reactive to the toxins from the vaccines. Why even make a child take all these shots by age 3. They didn't used to do this. Go back to the 60's and 70's and kids didn't get all these shots. There is clearly an agenda by the medical establishment to cause mental and physical impairment to kids by loading them up with vaccines at an early age. Who runs the medical establishment. Its the wealthy elites. They make all the decisions for what gets researched and what doesn't as they fund that research(Bill Gates Foundation ring any bells). They also put the personal (euginics) agenda into play by structuring rules and laws(obamacare) The doctors won't tell you there are side effects cause you wouldn't take the shot. You have to twist their arms just to talk about side effects from general medicines. You see the drug ads on TV. Half the commerical is telling you all the stuff that can go wrong and to ask you doctor if this drug is for you. You ask the doctor and they or either clueless or give you some run around answer that doesn't answer your question. So read the drug inserts that come with the vaccines not the stuff that the pharmacy gives you. The pharmacy gives you the dumbed down version of information about the drug statistics. They will list a bunch of the side effects that are known and accepted and usually the stats on them. Do the risks taking them outweigh the risks of not taking them??? Think about that one real hard. So maybe 80% can take them without too much trouble that can be related at this point to the vaccines. That doesn't mean that nothing happens to them. If your the 20% that get complications well your not so happy. So maybe 5% get autism that is clearly easy to see by 2 or 3. They will be impaired for the rest of their lives. Then maybe 5% get a milder reaction that may cause learning problems or behavior problems when they go to school and have to perform certain standard requirements. Then maybe 5% more have auto immune disorders and illnesses that make it hard to learn in school as they are always sick. Sick people don't learn well or do good under stress. Then you have 5% more that get behavior problems that come out in the pre teen or teen years. Things like socializations issues and pressures. They can't deal with the stresses. So you look at this and ask are we better off with the illness that naturally occurs or are we better off trusting a handful of people that rule over the medical industry with an iron fist and that have rationalized eugenics for making the world a better place for them. There are too many people and they have to culled to get rid of the useless eaters. You can bet they are not on their culling list. They are the perfect ones or the ones with power and money. You don't get power and money by being an idiot. The ones that see through the bull shit propaganda that is pushed out to the public will be smart enough to save themselves. For the rest of the idiots, well god will sort them out.

[borgready]

Take a look at these videos


Alex Jones Show interviews Russell Blaylock on vaccines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok311Lt-gzY


The Dangers of Gardasil with Dr. Russell Blaylock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28aE7xC7bmM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCjXj3Jo1fM

Do google searches for Russell Blaylock and vaccines

[borgready]

Vaccines may have their benefits. But you put yourself at risk when you take them. When your a small child your not making that decision so you get the shot shoved down your throat whether you like it or not. Many parents(young and dumb) are clueless about the risks of the vaccines and trust the doctors who say the vaccines are 100% safe. Many doctors are taught in school that vaccines are good and they will swear on their life by them(well unless they look into the vaccines). Many of these doctors are not geniuses they are trying to make a living so they go with the flow and do as the systems tells them. Why screw up a $200,000 a year job. You see on this forum where many are upset with the lack of care with the doctors? The doctors do what they are told and follow doctor protocol that is dictated to them by the medical establishment and they do what they have to do and nothing less. Many people get screwed up by the medical system with doctors that are there for the money. Its a business for them. Vaccines are known to have autoimmune side effects. Thats the way they are designed. They have to put other things in the shot like adjuvants to make the shots effective. Putting this other stuff in the shots causes bad autoimmune reactions. The mercury and aluminum are not brain or nerve friendly so they cause some level of damage just by being in the persons system. If a person can't remove the toxins or contain them, then they likely get autism which is basically mild brain damage. For a child of 1,2 or 3 years old there is critical brain development going on. Anything that messes with that causes mental impairment. So what you see is a huge push to get all the vaccines by 3 or 4. And they keep trying to add more to the list. The first shot may not make them ill, but after several rounds the immune system gets highly reactive to the toxins from the vaccines. Why even make a child take all these shots by age 3. They didn't used to do this. Go back to the 60's and 70's and kids didn't get all these shots. There is clearly an agenda by the medical establishment to cause mental and physical impairment to kids by loading them up with vaccines at an early age. Who runs the medical establishment. Its the wealthy elites. They make all the decisions for what gets researched and what doesn't as they fund that research(Bill Gates Foundation ring any bells). They also put the personal (eugenics) agenda into play by structuring rules and laws(obamacare) The doctors won't tell you there are side effects cause you wouldn't take the shot. You have to twist their arms just to talk about side effects from general medicines. You see the drug ads on TV. Half the commercial is telling you all the stuff that can go wrong and to ask you doctor if this drug is for you. You ask the doctor and they or either clueless or give you some run around answer that doesn't answer your question. So read the drug inserts that come with the vaccines not the stuff that the pharmacy gives you. The pharmacy gives you the dumbed down version of information about the drug statistics. They will list a bunch of the side effects that are known and accepted and usually the stats on them. Do the risks taking them outweigh the risks of not taking them??? Think about that one real hard. So maybe 80% can take them without too much trouble that can be related at this point to the vaccines. That doesn't mean that nothing happens to them. If your the 20% that get complications well your not so happy. So maybe 5% get autism that is clearly easy to see by 2 or 3. They will be impaired for the rest of their lives. Then maybe 5% get a milder reaction that may cause learning problems or behavior problems when they go to school and have to perform certain standard requirements. Then maybe 5% more have auto immune disorders and illnesses that make it hard to learn in school as they are always sick. Sick people don't learn well or do good under stress. Then you have 5% more that get behavior problems that come out in the pre teen or teen years. Things like socializations issues and pressures. They can't deal with the stresses. So you look at this and ask are we better off with the illness that naturally occurs or are we better off trusting a handful of people that rule over the medical industry with an iron fist and that have rationalized eugenics for making the world a better place for them. There are too many people and they have to culled to get rid of the useless eaters. You can bet they are not on their culling list. They are the perfect ones or the ones with power and money. You don't get power and money by being an idiot. The ones that see through the bull shit propaganda that is pushed out to the public will be smart enough to save themselves. For the rest of the idiots, well god will sort them out.

[Julie]

I'm 70 yrs old and had all my shots as a little kid... right along with every other child of my age. I don't think you know what you're talking about and I wish you'd just stop. While some doctors are motivated by money, the majority worked very hard to get where they are and as someone who's worked with hundreds all my life, whether or not I liked all of them personally (for many reasons), I can tell you the great majority are ethical, caring and responsible. If you've had bad experiences, that's too bad, but your knee-jerk condemnation of them is pointless and just makes you look cranky at best.

[borgready]

I'm 70 yrs old and had all my shots as a little kid... right along with every other child of my age. I don't think you know what you're talking about and I wish you'd just stop.

Well Julie, that was 70 years ago. The stuff they are putting in the shots now days is much more refined and researched. They know how to make the slow kill weapons as the foundations that fund medical research fund that research as well. The kids today age getting a nasty batch of shots. Many will be sickened easily or come down with illnesses as they get older. If you got grand kids that have come down sick and are sickly tell the parents to not vaccinate any more kids they have. I would even bet the parent would be having health issues if the kids are having problems with the shots. The vaccinations compromise the immune system and weaken it. This leaves them more susceptible to cancer, toxins, merca bacteria(killer bacteria), fungi, and flu and other viruses.

There are a bunch of people in charge at the govt level and at corporate level that have agendas that are not good for most people. Why do they put fluoride in the water supply? It sure ain't for your teeth like they say it is? It to cause people health problems. Most municipal water supplies poison the water with fluoride. They don't have to do it. It doesn't make the water safer to drink. The fluoride thing is just one area that is under influence by the rich elites that run things. The obamacare is health care rationing. More people are getting sick and the cost of medical care is going up. So as more people are getting sicker they want to ration the health care. They make you sick they then they restrict medical care. You can bet the rich boys profit from the stuff they do. Rationing of health care will be very profitable for the rich elites and it will serve their agendas for power and domination.

If this information freaks you out, well it should. This stuff is hard core evil.

[Julie]

I made a mistake - I mistook your notes for ignorance, but now I realize you have a serious problem with paranoia and really should see a psychiatrist. I'm not joking - you need help. What you're writing is flagrantly untrue and you need to re-educate yourself on the topic.

[BlackSpinner]

If this information freaks you out, well it should. This stuff is hard core evil.

No the antivax stuff is hardcore evil. Fraud to make money off people who are scared. All these people you quoted should be in jail big time.

[archangle]

Take a look at these videos


Alex Jones

Alex Jones = "Case closed, you're a nutjob."

Thank you for proving this is a non-issue.