SleepyHead and the F&P Icon Auto

[Rick007]

I started CPAP therapy about 3 weeks ago. I have been reading these forums almost daily since then. Many of my questions have been answered , but I have many more to ask, and this one is kind of time sensitive.

I have been renting a F&P Icon Auto from the DME, and I will be asked to purchase my own machine next week. I'm not sure if I will have to purchase the F&P or if they will offer me a choice of machines.

I am really impressed with the information displayed by the SleepyHead software, and I read in another thread that SleepyHead has recently been updated to work with the F&P Icon.However I have searched the forums, and I can't find any mention of anyone using SleepyHead with the F&P.

Can you tell me if all the SleepyHead graphs displayed in the various threads are available on all CPAP machines. Or better yet, if you are using the F&P Icon, can you tell me what information is available from the unit. I am especially interested in monitoring my respiration rate (since it is only 7 when awake at rest), and I would also like to be able to differentiate between central and obstructive apneas.

As I said earlier, I'm not sure if my DME (referred to me by the hospital) carries any other models, and if I did want to try another brand, I would probably have to rent it for another month (at extra cost) to verify it will work for me personally. What brand machines would you say provide the most data for SleepyHead.

Thanks
Rick

[Pugsy]

Do you have Windows computer? If so download the latest SleepyHead version 0.9.3 and give it a try with your Icon.
It will work. We don't have many Icon users here though. You won't get flow rate graph....I am not sure of respiration rate graph.
Download it and give it a try to see what you get.

Personally, if you can get a full efficacy data S9 or PR System One machine...the data available from those machines is a bit more comprehensive than the Icon (from the F & P reports I have seen).
Never having used one I can't tell you for sure...but just give Sleepyhead a try to see what you can get.
Links in my signature.
If your computer has a SD slot you don't need anything. If it doesn't then all you need is a generic reader/adapter to make use of a USB port.

[Rick007]

Thanks for the reply Pugsy.

I had removed the stick during my first 2 weeks of the trial and it seemed that it created a new folder when it was reinserted back into the machine. The folder was named with the current date. I may be totally wrong with this assumption because I never tried it again to be certain.Since the DME will be using the data to determine if the pressure settings are working for me, I don't want to take a chance of messing up the data. I will have to live with these pressure settings for several months before seeing the sleep specialist again.

That is why I hoped that someone else who has had more time to evaluate the F&P ICON could pass on their personal evaluation.

If the DME carries any other brands I may ask for another model. I assume that if my compliance data on the F&P is showing good, there would be no problem switching to another brand with the same pressure settings?

The F&P Icon actually uses a USB memory stick. One side is flat and the other is convex. Since it has to fit into a slot on the side of the machine, you can consider it proprietary because of it's shape, although it is readable on any PC.

[Pugsy]

I only know of 2 current forum members who are now active somewhat on the forum and now using the Icon. They may or may not see your thread. So you may wait a while for an answer from an Icon user that uses SleepyHead and you will need to keep your thread on the main page to get their attention when they do return to the forum.

Just looking at the data provided on the SmartStick shouldn't make any changes anywhere unless you were using a Mac computer and sometimes the Mac itself has been known to put an extra file/folder on the SD card. SleepyHead itself doesn't put anything on the SD card.

There used to be a tutorial for the official Infosmart software but I can't find it now. It showed some examples of what was shown in the InfoSmart Software. You might browse the internet and see if you can find it...I just now tried and I couldn't. It was from a F & P page but I can't find it now. All I remember is large leak territory begins at 60 L/min for the Icon.

If you want to try a trial copy of the InfoSmart software...send me a private message and I will show you where to find it.
It's a big PITA to try to use though.

[Rick007]

There used to be a tutorial for the official Infosmart software but I can't find it now. It showed some examples of what was shown in the InfoSmart Software. You might browse the internet and see if you can find it..

If you want to try a trial copy of the InfoSmart software...send me a private message and I will show you where to find it.
It's a big PITA to try to use though.

Thanks again for all your help. I had found copies of both the InfoSmart server and client software, but had a difficult time getting them to work. I will certainly be looking for the tutorial. It may have been my inexperience with the software that caused the extra folder to be created.

I think I will see about getting a different machine if my DME carries other models.

[Pugsy]

I think I will see about getting a different machine if my DME carries other models.

You won't be sorry if you get one of the ResMed S9 or PR System One 60 series machines. Just make sure you know you model numbers.
The software for either is much easier to manage, easy to obtain and free..
I know a DME that quit carrying the F & P machines just because of the software issues...not the easiest to manage.

[Icon User]

I use an F&P Icon Auto with sleepyhead software. The information available for the daily graphs is limited, and is only sampled every 2 minutes:
Event Flags: A flag is set each for Obstructive Apnea (OA), Hypopnea (H), and Flow Limit (FL) if they occur during each 2 minute window
Pressure: Appears to show the pressure setpoint at 2 minute intervals
Leak: Leak rates at 2 minute intervals
Flow Limitation: Same info as in the FL Event Flags
AHI: Number of AHI (OA + H) over the last hour

There is no flow information displayed.

There is a number associated with Flow Limitation that is supposed to be duration, but appears too be something else. My guess is that it is an 8 bit flag possibly indicating if an FL occurred during each of the eight 15 second periods within the 2 minute sample time. Hypopnea and Obstructive Apnea have similar "durations" that may also be flags.

[ninjatrigg]

Can someone help me out with sleepyhead software?

I have an F&P Icon, and ive used sleepyhead for the last two years. Everything worked just fine.

I lost my usb stick, and I had to buy another one. Well, I slept for the first night and when I uploaded the data, it contained someone elses data, and it filled up my sleepyhead charts.
I tried to delete all of this from my computer. I somehow managed to mess up the actual software.

I downloaded many different versions of sleepyhead with different patches, and I get one of the two outcomes when uploading.

It either say that it cant find machine data, and stops responding. No matter what software I install.
I still have my old data stored on my PC.

I feel naked not knowing how im sleeping!