Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

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Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by Sheffey » Mon May 20, 2013 5:10 am

How is it that I have known this for nearly 20 years and the medical profession has ignored it? This was one of the driving forces many years ago that caused me to seek a cure for my "snoring" and begin using CPAP.

I am glad to see this study getting some major publicity. It was even on my local radio news when my alarm radio turned on at 5:30 this morning.
By Charles Bankhead, Staff Writer, MedPage Today
Published: May 19, 2013
Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco
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This study was published as an abstract and presented at a conference. These data and conclusions should be considered to be preliminary until published in a peer-reviewed journal.
Biomarkers associated with Alzheimer's disease increased linearly with severity of sleep-disordered breathing in normal-weight older people.
Point out that brain imaging of patients with sleep-disordered breathing showed reduced metabolic activity in the composite assessment of brain areas with known vulnerability to Alzheimer's disease.

PHILADELPHIA -- Biomarkers associated with Alzheimer's disease increased linearly with severity of sleep-disordered breathing (SDB) in normal-weight older people, according to a study reported here.

Cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) levels of P-Tau had a significant association with SDB (P<0.05), according to a poster presentation at the American Thoracic Society meeting.

Additionally, brain imaging of patients with SBD showed reduced metabolic activity in the composite assessment of brain areas with known vulnerability to Alzheimer's disease, reported Ricardo Osorio, MD, of New York University in New York City, and colleagues.

Lean patients with SDB also had a smaller hippocampal volume, they added.

"Sleep apnea skyrockets in the elderly, and this fact hasn't been given the attention it deserves by the sleep world or the Alzheimer's world," Osorio said in a statement. "Sleep particularly suffers from an outmoded perception that it is an inactive physiological process, when, in reality, it is a very active part of the day for the brain."

Middle-aged adults have an estimated SDB prevalence of 10% to 20%, increasing to as much as 60% among people older than 65. The explanation for the increased prevalence remains unclear, but one possibility is that SDB is an early manifestation or marker of Alzheimer's disease, according to Osorio.

Interest in the relationship of SBD to Alzheimer’s disease reflects a paradigm shift in the approach to Alzheimer’s research. Traditionally, research and clinical strategies have focused on the disease, but by then, little can be done to help the patient, said Osorio, noting the long list of failed clinical trials in the field.

The change in focus has led to development of multiple biomarkers for diagnosis of Alzheimer’s disease at earlier stages of development. Brain imaging and laboratory tests have shown promise for early diagnosis.

“The tests that are abnormal in Alzheimer’s disease also are abnormal 10 to 15 years before in normal people,” Osorio said during a press briefing. “The new paradigm is to start treating patients 10 to 15 years before Alzheimer’s disease is apparent.”

To examine the relationship between SDB and Alzheimer's disease, investigators enrolled 68 patients, ages 64 to 87, in a prospective clinical study.

Each participant's workup consisted of a comprehensive clinical examination, neuropsychological testing, two nights of home monitoring for SDB, and at least one diagnostic procedure for Alzheimer's disease:

Measurement of CSF levels of the biomarkers P-Tau, T-Tau, and A-beta-42
PET imaging or MRI of vulnerable brain regions

Normal breathing during sleep was defined as an apnea-hypopnea index (AHI) less than 5, mild SDB as an AHI of 5 to 15, and moderate to severe SDB as an AHI greater than 15. Stratification of the patients by those criteria resulted in 18 patients with normal breathing, 33 with mild SDB, and 17 with moderate-severe SDB.

The prevalence of SDB increased with body mass index (BMI), although none of the groups had a mean BMI in the obese range (greater than 30). BMI averaged 23.8 in the group with normal breathing, 25.8 in the group with mild SDB, and 29.4 in the group with moderate-severe SDB.

The group with normal breathing during sleep had a mean AHI of 2.6, increasing to 8.3 in the mild-SDB group, and 36.9 in the group with moderate-severe SDB.

Across the three groups, only lean participants (BMI less than 25 kg/m2) with SDB had laboratory or imaging results associated with Alzheimer's disease. In addition to increased CSF levels of P-Tau, the Alzheimer's disease mask (composite FDG-PET imaging score of all vulnerable brain areas) was significantly lower in lean participants with SDB, reflecting generalized glucose hypometabolism (P<0.05).

The observation that abnormal findings occurred only in lean patients added to the so-called paradox of obesity, said Osorio. Though excess weight poses a health risk in middle age, overweight or obesity appears to be protective in older people. The protective effect might involve better nutrition, less muscle atrophy, or other factors.

“A common observation in patients with Alzheimer’s disease is significant weight loss,” said Osorio. “Loss of muscle mass precedes memory loss in some cases.”

The smaller hippocampal volume in lean patients with SBD adds to the evidence of a possible association between SBD and Alzheimer’s disease, said Susheel Patil, MD, PhD, of Johns Hopkins, who moderated the press briefing.

“The issue of whether sleep apnea is a risk for Alzheimer’s disease or acceleration of Alzheimer’s disease would seem to have some plausibility,” said Patil. “The effect could be bidirectional. Alzheimer’s disease could affect the development of sleep-disordered breathing.”

Osorio and colleagues have begun planning a longitudinal study to determine the direction of causality between SDB and early-stage Alzheimer's disease. The study would include an assessment of the effect of continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) for SDB on levels of biomarkers associated with Alzheimer's disease.

"If the biomarkers change, it may indicate that SDB is causing Alzheimer's disease," Osorio said. "If they don't change, the probable conclusion is that these patients are going to develop Alzheimer's disease with or without CPAP and that Alzheimer's disease may either be causing the apnea or may simply coexist with SDB as part of aging."

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/ATS/39251
One other thing of note in the report:
Sleep apnea skyrockets in the elderly, and this fact hasn't been given the attention it deserves by the sleep world or the Alzheimer's world. Middle-aged adults have an estimated SDB prevalence of 10% to 20%, increasing to as much as 60% among people older than 65.
I have long had a suspicion that apnea prevalence rates were more than 50% in the elderly. Now right there is confirmation from medical research - 60%.

I am happy to see that this study is getting widespread attention from the media - http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... el=suggest

Get yourself a CPAP machine! If you already have one, get it out of the closet.

But sadly, many of you are already too demented to take action.
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Re: Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by RandyJ » Mon May 20, 2013 6:37 am

I agree that the research is interesting but I wouldn't go so far as to interpret what I read in the article as being evidence of a 'causal' relationship between SDB and Alzheimer's. The article itself said it could be the opposite.

It will be interesting to see how the research turns out, though I wonder if fewer than 70 test subjects are enough for a definitive result.

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Re: Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by Cereal Killer » Mon May 20, 2013 7:02 am

Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's
The evidence is piling up. Dr. Park has cited other evidence - http://doctorstevenpark.com/index.php?s=alzheimers

I agree with the premise that sleep apnea causes Alzheimer's. This conclusion comes from reading I have done and personal observation of friends and family members with dementia.

It's only logical that sleep deprivation and oxygen desats will damage the thought process.

Thanks for posting the article.

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Post by jencat824 » Mon May 20, 2013 8:20 am

OMG!!! I'm trying not to panic! I've been treated for OSA for 13 yrs & I'm 53. Alzheimers runs on both sides of my family, my mom, grandmother & all great aunts on my mom's side & 3 aunts on my dad's side died of Alzheimers. I've been somewhat forgetful lately & my neurologist said I'm paniced for nothing. I'm going to find a study doing the genetic testing for Alzheimers, I want to know for sure. I'm truly scared of few things in life, but getting Alzheimers scares me to death. Since we don't have human euthanasia in the USA yet, I plan to do that for myself if I'm ever diagnosed.

I hope that treating my OSA may help, but if the relationship exists, it may not be that treatment prevents Alzheimers, but only that the relationship between the two disorders exists. Looking back, my mom & all my great aunts snored horribly. It was before OSA treatment was common - most back in the 70's & 80's but my mom died of Alzheimers at the ripe age of 86 2 yrs ago.

I'm glad to know there is research out there, I plan to seek more answers & will share those here when I find relevant research. Thanks for posting this, I'd rather know the truth.

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Re: Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by Stormynights » Mon May 20, 2013 8:38 am

jencat824 wrote:OMG!!! I'm trying not to panic! I've been treated for OSA for 13 yrs & I'm 53. Alzheimers runs on both sides of my family, my mom, grandmother & all great aunts on my mom's side & 3 aunts on my dad's side died of Alzheimers. I've been somewhat forgetful lately & my neurologist said I'm paniced for nothing. I'm going to find a study doing the genetic testing for Alzheimers, I want to know for sure. I'm truly scared of few things in life, but getting Alzheimers scares me to death. Since we don't have human euthanasia in the USA yet, I plan to do that for myself if I'm ever diagnosed.

I hope that treating my OSA may help, but if the relationship exists, it may not be that treatment prevents Alzheimers, but only that the relationship between the two disorders exists. Looking back, my mom & all my great aunts snored horribly. It was before OSA treatment was common - most back in the 70's & 80's but my mom died of Alzheimers at the ripe age of 86 2 yrs ago.

I'm glad to know there is research out there, I plan to seek more answers & will share those here when I find relevant research. Thanks for posting this, I'd rather know the truth.

Jen
I don't know what to say. As painful as it was to see your Mother with that horrible condition you have to realize it would have been so much more painful if she had harmed herself. The more you have on your mind the easier it is to be forgetful. Stress affects your memory too. (((big hug)))

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Re: Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon May 20, 2013 9:32 am

A few years back, someone did a study where they gave patients with beginning dementia (cause undetermined)
supplemental oxygen; with measurable improvement of symptoms--as long as they were getting oxygen.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon May 20, 2013 11:01 am

chunkyfrog wrote:A few years back, someone did a study where they gave patients with beginning dementia (cause undetermined)
supplemental oxygen; with measurable improvement of symptoms--as long as they were getting oxygen.
Also,
Treating sleep apnoea in Alzheimer's patients helps cognition

Continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) treatment seems to improve cognitive functioning in patients with Alzheimer's disease who also suffer from obstructive sleep apnea, according to the results of a randomized clinical trial

Full article: http://www.sleepservicesaustralia.com.a ... -cognition
Sheffey, Note also that the authors of the study I cited said,
The prevalence of OSA in patients with dementia has been estimated to be as high as 70 to 80 percent.
However, they also said,
CPAP by no means treats the underlying cause of Alzheimer's disease
But they don't explain what they consider the underlying cause to be. Anyone know?
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Post by Space Oddity » Mon May 20, 2013 11:03 am

jencat824 wrote: but getting Alzheimers scares me to death. Since we don't have human euthanasia in the USA yet, I plan to do that for myself if I'm ever diagnosed.
How would you go about it?

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Post by MagsterMile » Mon May 20, 2013 11:41 am

Very interesting article. Seventy people in the study does seem low to me. I'm not a researcher so maybe that is an adequate sample.

I saw a new story on TV, awhile back, that there is an 800 # that a person can call and take a short test using the key pad that can give clues if a person has potential to get Alzheimers. I think it might have been at least 10 years or so that I saw it and unfortunately I never wrote it down since I was positive it wouldn't matter to me. Well, now it does matter. Has anyone else hear heard of that number and know what it is?

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Mon May 20, 2013 2:34 pm

take a short test using the key pad that can give clues if a person has potential to get Alzheimers.
Take your choice - https://www.google.com/search?q=online+ ... =firefox-a
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Post by jencat824 » Mon May 20, 2013 3:02 pm

Space Oddity wrote:
jencat824 wrote: but getting Alzheimers scares me to death. Since we don't have human euthanasia in the USA yet, I plan to do that for myself if I'm ever diagnosed.
How would you go about it?
Not quite sure, but I think I'd move to the Netherlands & utilize their system. I'd need to live there 18 months to establish residency. I've thought about this a lot & don't want my family to suffer as I & my cousins have over the years watching this disease rob our loved ones of their cognitive power. I just hope when my time comes, the treatments are better. Thanks for asking.

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Re: Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by Space Oddity » Mon May 20, 2013 3:56 pm

move to the Netherlands & utilize their system. I'd need to live there 18 months to establish residency.

What about the timing?

It seems most people go undiagnosed for about 15 years and many of them have some good times during these years.

How would you time it?

By the time you have an official diagnosis would you be mentally capable of executing your plan?

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Re: Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by grapeshly » Mon May 20, 2013 9:25 pm

Um...see an attorney and set up a living will, and establish who can make life decisions for you. Discuss what you want with that person, who would, of course, be someone you trust. Also set up who can have power of attorney. A lawyer will also explain what it takes to claim power of attorney. Needless to say, that person, too should be someone you trust! For the power of attorney that is, but now that i think about it, the lawyer too! Also, you may want to think about long term care insurance -- but that's for you to decide.

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Re: Finally: Sleep Apnea Causes Alzheimer's

Post by Ablor » Tue May 21, 2013 12:49 pm

Its a bit hard to deal with it especially when we are mentally stressed but getting rid of it naturally is the thing.I personally think that it should be treated by natural way and this is what you have written.