Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by mollete » Tue May 14, 2013 3:50 am

knightlite wrote:my grandmother smoked from six years old till she was hit by a truck at 110 years old.
Still, it's tragic when it happens. I'm so sorry for your loss.

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by knightlite » Tue May 14, 2013 7:32 am

A preventive treatment of a cap full/ gallon of bleach is not trying to totally disinfect a totally filthy system . It is more than you get from most central water system treatments that you drink everyday . How long do you think it would take for central water systems to become infested if they stopped using chlorine to protect the health of the general public. But trying to use a cup full of bleach / gallon even in an emergency would be toxic.
I have helped putting chlorine in private wells to prevent the buildup of bacteria from stagnant lines and other problems . Grocery stores - vegetable displays , meat counters , all have found nothing beats the protection chlorine helps with.
But I do filter out the chlorine from the water that we cook with , drink, and make ice with. But everywhere I go I know I'm drinking some-- that's okay with me.
That helps my chances for good health. You do whats best for you---happy trails to you --Roy Rodgers a great guy

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by mollete » Wed May 15, 2013 4:50 am

knightlite wrote:A preventive treatment of a cap full/ gallon of bleach is not trying to totally disinfect a totally filthy system .
As previously noted, if something is "filthy" (which I interpret as having "gross contamination"), then it is not ready for disinfection. Disinfectants cannot penetrate gross soil (at least in the concentrations and contact times recommended) and must be cleaned first.

Arbitrarily picking a concentration and thinking it actually does something is inappropriate. It may either be ineffective or dangerous to self and/or target product.

Bleach has recommendations for disinfection:

http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebse ... 3hCOrrrrQ-

However, all the CPAP/mask vendors say no bleach!

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by mollete » Wed May 15, 2013 4:54 am

knightlite wrote:---happy trails to you --Roy Rodgers a great guy
Rogers!! (sorry, OCD)

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by mollete » Wed May 15, 2013 5:07 am

knightlite wrote: --Roy Rodgers (sic) a great guy
Yeah well, you go ahead. I was a Dale Evans fan myself:

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by knightlite » Thu May 16, 2013 4:04 am

Mollete
You are correct it is Rogers . My friend who passed was Bob Rodgers- I merged the names . Most people don't know of Roy Rogers or Dale Evans-- but they were good people . But my generation did not relate to Tom Mix either so I understand .
For the rest of the topic , we can agree to disagree . I stopped believing in the universal right a long time ago.

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by mollete » Thu May 16, 2013 4:18 am

knightlite wrote:Most people don't know of Roy Rogers or Dale Evans-- but they were good people.
Yeah, well, read up on early Dale Evans. She was a busy little beaver!

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by quietmorning » Thu May 16, 2013 7:09 am

tangram wrote:I wash my hose and gear every day. I couldn't imagine doing otherwise; to put it delicately, it's easy to tell when the hose hasn't been washed. But the hose takes too long to dry, in my experience.

I hang the hose up, but there is still water in it days later. The water splashes into my face if I use a wet hose.

I bought multiple hoses and started rotating them, but that became too much of a hassle.

So my solution is to dry the hose and short tube with a hair dryer adapter, as in the picture seen at the link below.

The adapter attached to the hair dryer fits the standard hose. It has a small attachment for the short tube, shown at the top.

This setup dries the hose in five minutes, without heat, on low speed. Faster on high speed, of course. The short tube dries in a minute or two. No droplets. Nice and fresh.

http://kxe1.nfshost.com/adapter.jpg
Where did you get the adapter?

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by avi123 » Thu May 16, 2013 6:51 pm

With this method of drying if by mistake you switch the "Heat" on the dryer to "High" it would ruin the air tube. Even if 1" length of the air hose would get the heat blow it would then cause that length to become fragile. If its a ClimateControl tube then it could become costly.

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Post by Annie2004 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:30 am

Hello, i am a wife and mother (and graduate student and professional of the most high caliber), I too have been suspecting my husbands decline ( most recently over the past year)to CPAP use, most rapidly in recent months! We have almost lost him on many occasions! He is not fat, his stomach has been bloated, he has diabetes, high blood pressure (controlled) but has continued to have repetitive infections, now over many years, most significantly in the last few months! He now has been reportedly misdiagnose, not for sleep apnea (2000) but now a full blown (sleep disorder) recently, a massive surgical site infection, left almost untreated? Why has he had many , many infections over the past decade? I have most recently suspected the bacteria housed in his linear tubes from his CPAP machine? It has been such a long haul i just hope is able to clear (severe cognitive deficits)and survive! It is really bad! Just one request, please send me any or all documentation of repetitive staphylococcus or related infections due to CPAP use, including manufacturer names (if you feel comfortable doing so!)?

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Re: Infections, Bacterias, Bugs that Haunt the CPAP hose

Post by Rich Richards » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:52 pm

Hi,
first post! This topic is what led me to finding this site.

As for the question, perhaps someone has already mentioned what I'm about to add, sorry if this has already been posted. Basically, I was a little shocked at the amount of time and effort being discussed regarding the cleaning of a $5 hose. Why not just skip a single trip to Starbucks, and simply buy a new hose every month, and never again worry about this nonsense? I've found even less expensive than that, when buying multiples it drops to three bucks and change per hose. That's less than a box of cookies.

Seems odd discussing cleaning options when they are so cheap. Plus, you aren't ever going to get a more "clean" hose than a brand-new one. Use them for a few weeks, and then put them in the recycle bin. Or make some impressionistic pop art. Perhaps a Halloween costume? A very interesting modified kazoo? Spraypaint a few of them black, and you've got the dreadlocks for the Predator costume you've been dreaming of impressing your co-workers with at the annual party. The options are plentiful.

As for all the other components, sure, those are far too expensive to replace often, and deserve discussion regarding getting them free of contaminants.