Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Pugsy » Fri May 03, 2013 7:28 am

jencat824 wrote: 6. Can you explain the 95% as it relates to AHI's in Encore?
This question I need clarified...the others I will try to cover as I think I understand what you are wanting to see.

95% numbers in ResMed and 90% numbers in Respironics don't refer to AHI..so that is where you lost me.

Where are you seeing this? I have never seen it for AHI.

In SleepyHead the default in the statistics section where 95% (default...you can change it to 90) only refers to the statistics numbers below the pie chart or below the AHI bars if pie chart is turned off.

So yes, I will explain 90/95% numbers as to the definition of it for the values that are shown but I have never seen AHI % number....where are you seeing that?

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Sheriff Buford » Fri May 03, 2013 7:41 am

Thanks for making it idiot-proof. Here's a hint: while typing, think of ole' Buford and it should come out as simple as possible.

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Kenwood » Fri May 03, 2013 7:56 am

jencat824 wrote: 1. As regards to leak data, you say you are going to educate us about leaks as reported in Sleephead, Encore Basic & ResMed - can you include the point at which a leak is so large all data is corrupted?
Why is everyone looking at me

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Pugsy » Fri May 03, 2013 8:27 am

Kenwood wrote: Why is everyone looking at me
Well..if the shoe fits...

I don't normally get excited about large leaks because most of the time it's short lived but
You were the poster child for "leaks way outta control"...and making a total mess of your therapy and you machine throwing up it's little arms and saying "I quit"....

If there was an award for the worst leak reports....you would win it hands down. I don't think I have ever seen anyone have such bad leaks for so long...night after night...and to top it all off...DME said "hey, leaks aren't a problem".. Idiots.

But we got it all straightened out and now you are walking the straight and narrow road with minimal to none leaks.
You now get to join the ranks of "boring reports"...and that's a good place to be.

I have 4 inches of snow outside...have to go to town...so now I get to go shovel snow off the truck
Out here I don't have shelter for my truck...
Can't believe it snowed so much...I was thinking maybe a little dusting...nope..Mother Nature really showed us who is boss last night.

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by 123.Shawn T.W. » Fri May 03, 2013 9:13 am

Pugsy wrote:

First order of business is an easier read for SH install issues. People can't seem to find the User Guide.
Unfortunatley ... This is ALL it says in regards to SP02 Review
Importing SpO2Review Data

This method requires finding the SpO2Review softwares data store directory.
The windows SpO2Review software uses the .spoR file format.
Huh? What do I do with it once I find the file in review? How does it get put into SH?

With my CMS50D+ I only get ONE shot at downloading ...
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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Pugsy » Fri May 03, 2013 10:55 am

The User Guide I was referring to was the SleepyHead user Guide about SleepyHead stuff.
Not about the SPO2 thing. I can't help with pulse ox compatibility in SH...sorry. I am clueless. I did it once following someone else's step by step instructions. My pulse ox data was so boring that I had no desire to watch it any more.
Papit has some really good instructions here somewhere on the forum.
I can't help with pulse ox problems...we need someone else to step up to the plate for it.

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Pugsy wrote:

First order of business is an easier read for SH install issues. People can't seem to find the User Guide.
Unfortunatley ... This is ALL it says in regards to SP02 Review
Importing SpO2Review Data

This method requires finding the SpO2Review softwares data store directory.
The windows SpO2Review software uses the .spoR file format.
Huh? What do I do with it once I find the file in review? How does it get put into SH?

With my CMS50D+ I only get ONE shot at downloading ...

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by SleepingUgly » Fri May 03, 2013 3:01 pm

If Mollete's Morsels and Pugsy's Pointers are going to be stickied to the top of the board, where does that leave Sleeping Ugly's pot-stirring sarcasm?
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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by jencat824 » Fri May 03, 2013 4:36 pm

Pugsy wrote:
jencat824 wrote: 6. Can you explain the 95% as it relates to AHI's in Encore?
This question I need clarified...the others I will try to cover as I think I understand what you are wanting to see.

95% numbers in ResMed and 90% numbers in Respironics don't refer to AHI..so that is where you lost me.

Where are you seeing this? I have never seen it for AHI.

In SleepyHead the default in the statistics section where 95% (default...you can change it to 90) only refers to the statistics numbers below the pie chart or below the AHI bars if pie chart is turned off.

So yes, I will explain 90/95% numbers as to the definition of it for the values that are shown but I have never seen AHI % number....where are you seeing that?
I guess I stated this question wrong, see these two reports below & they have a 90% pressure that I wrongly thought of in terms of the AHI & they relate to APAP % pressure. You may or may not think this needs explaining. (If I'm just the one who doesn't understand this just PM me, no need to clutter up the thread if I'm just the dummy).

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ps - I thought of another question that would help all newbies - how to post data reports. You taught me and without your help and some help from others I'd have never figured it out. Some folks are not as computer literate as others. Anyone can browse the internet, but some interactions need instructions, which you provided for me.

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Pugsy » Fri May 03, 2013 4:49 pm

jencat824 wrote:I guess I stated this question wrong, see these two reports below & they have a 90% pressure that I wrongly thought of in terms of the AHI & they relate to APAP % pressure. You may or may not think this needs explaining. (If I'm just the one who doesn't understand this just PM me, no need to clutter up the thread if I'm just the dummy).
The 90 % is just about pressure...90% of the night you were at OR below that pressure.
ResMed used 95 %..same definition
ResMed also uses a 95% leak number...same definition.
I did explain this in the Pointers.

In your situation it is just the way the report is shown...AHI has no relationship to the 90% number. Think of each segment as a totally separate report.

3 main segments
Pressure
Events
Leak

SH has Events on top...and pressure under flow graph and in Encore flow graph isn't even shown on this report you have to go to wave form to get it.
So just the way the data is presented visually in a different manner.

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Vesta Anne » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:14 pm

Hi
I have been reading your information and want to thank you. I have been a long term cpap user but just now getting involved in what settings I really need I was exhausted and had taken in my card last October and dme said all was well. Took it back again last month because of exhaustion. This time he increased my upper pressure thrombosis 12 to 14. I checked my pressure the next day and it was a close to 14. So I set my pressure to 20 and the daily reading is 19.2. I think I will use the 4/20 settings and start downloading my data. Any thoughts. I do not have the exhaustion i had at the lower pressure. A concern is new headaches at higher pressure. Set pressure brown to 16 and headaches better
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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Pugsy » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:35 pm

Vesta Anne wrote:I checked my pressure the next day and it was a close to 14. So I set my pressure to 20 and the daily reading is 19.2. I think I will use the 4/20 settings and start downloading my data. Any thoughts.
I would want to see the software reports before offering definitive thoughts but I think that the minimum of 4 cm is probably not the way to go depending on what it is now. That can be too low to start with if you need more pressure because it takes too long to get to where it needs to be when it starts at 4 cm. The minimum pressure can be the most critical pressure. Set it properly and the maximum often doesn't need to go so high and the pressures stabilize and don't roam around all over the place.
If the pressure is too low then a person can have more events happen while the pressure is making its way up to where it needs to be.

What machine are you using? Does it collect full data so that you can use the software to see what is going on?

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by archangle » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:30 pm

I'm late in joining in on this thread.

You might want to reconsider the wiki feature. There are really a lot of great features there for this kind of stuff.

However, the wiki functions seem to be somewhat broken at the moment and I can't create new entries, but maybe it could be fixed if you ask Carolyn.

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Triadz » Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:49 am

SleepingUgly wrote:If Mollete's Morsels and Pugsy's Pointers are going to be stickied to the top of the board, where does that leave Sleeping Ugly's pot-stirring sarcasm?
I say that's best sprinkled in as a spice....as it has been.

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by archangle » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:36 pm

I'm not quite sure which thread is best to put this in, but here's one SleepyHead hint.

I don't like SleepyHead ignoring short sessions. It's probably a good idea, but doesn't work with my analytical bent.

However, I found that if I set "ignore short sessions" and "combine close sessions" to "off," I get strange results like daily usage of 380,000 hours. I set ignore short sessions to 1 minute and everything seems OK.

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Re: Pugsy's Pointers Ideas request

Post by Papit » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:10 pm

Pugsy, feel free to use what you want in my instructions for inserting and viewing Pulse-Ox graphs and data in SleepyHead software.
It's here > viewtopic/t87790/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=77 ... 22#p702522 and as a link in my signature line. It has many edits (updates) in it now as I keep inserting new stuff whenever I learn about a new kink. All the best with your "Pointers" column. Great idea! --Papit

With my CMS50D+ I only get ONE shot at downloading ...[/quote][/quote]
Pugsy wrote:The User Guide I was referring to was the SleepyHead user Guide about SleepyHead stuff.
Not about the SPO2 thing. I can't help with pulse ox compatibility in SH...sorry. I am clueless. I did it once following someone else's step by step instructions. My pulse ox data was so boring that I had no desire to watch it any more.
Papit has some really good instructions here somewhere on the forum.
I can't help with pulse ox problems...we need someone else to step up to the plate for it.
123.Shawn T.W. wrote:
Pugsy wrote:
First order of business is an easier read for SH install issues. People can't seem to find the User Guide.
Unfortunatley ... This is ALL it says in regards to SP02 Review
Importing SpO2Review Data

This method requires finding the SpO2Review softwares data store directory.
The windows SpO2Review software uses the .spoR file format.
Huh? What do I do with it once I find the file in review? How does it get put into SH?
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