do any cpaps have FAA approval labels ON THEM?

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Re: do any cpaps have FAA approval labels ON THEM?

Post by Drowsy Dancer » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:15 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Thank you, DD, for posting the image of the label.
I wonder if this is the one Aer Lingus was referring to, or that one only appears on machines sold in Ireland?
Maybe the airline had finally gotten their heads on straight. (or they are still crammed in the same place as 4 years ago)
I will never win any awards as a photographer, that's for sure, but I thought it might be handy for fellow travelers to know what to look for on their machines, so that they can flip their machines over and point helpfully to the little airplane icon and and say, "See? FAA-approved! Satisfies RTCA/DO-160!" BTW, the label doesn't have to use the words "FAA-approved" per the DOT, it just has to state that the device meets the RTCA/DO-160 standard. Geez, I wish that had a snappier name. See 10/28/2009 "Notice from DOT re Use of Passenger-Supplied Electronic Respiratory Assistive Devices on Aircraft."

I have actually now written to the Chief of the Civil Rights Compliance Branch, Office of Assistant General Counsel for Aviation Enforcement and Proceedings, DOT, as well as the Assistant General Counsel, to ask if I could suggest changes to the Draft Technical Assistance Manual on Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Disability in Air Travel, even though the comment period is closed. The CFR on the subject are kind of screwed up, but it's subtle, and I think the problem stems from a failure to distinguish adequately between personal oxygen concentrators (POCs), intended for continuous use, and xPAPs, used only while sleeping. I'm kind of taking this on as a project.

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Re: do any cpaps have FAA approval labels ON THEM?

Post by jdm2857 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:55 pm

Anyone want to go into the label-printing business?
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Re: do any cpaps have FAA approval labels ON THEM?

Post by cosmo » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:11 pm

http://www.resmed.com/us/documents/ResM ... Letter.pdf

http://www.resmed.com/us/service_and_su ... c=patients

Please note that many ResMed devices do not carry a label indicating their FAA approved status. Nevertheless, the devices indicated in the FAA compliance letter have successfully completed FAA testing as required for in-flight use. Final approval for in-flight usage, however, lies with the individual airline carrier.

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Re: do any cpaps have FAA approval labels ON THEM?

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:05 pm

So, if a ticket holder has jumped through all the hoops, and is still refused xpap carry-on or use at the very last minute;
is there any way to transfer the ticket to a later flight that WILL allow the xpap?
This would be a good question to ask the airline; and if accommodation cannot be made, to book with another carrier.
(and put the name of the offending airline on-line, for others to see)
Edit: I found a link dated 2011 for Aer Lingus:
http://www.aerlingus.com/Services/Guide ... _Goods.pdf

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Re: do any cpaps have FAA approval labels ON THEM?

Post by Drowsy Dancer » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:17 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:So, if a ticket holder has jumped through all the hoops, and is still refused xpap carry-on or use at the very last minute;
is there any way to transfer the ticket to a later flight that WILL allow the xpap?
This would be a good question to ask the airline; and if accommodation cannot be made, to book with another carrier.
(and put the name of the offending airline on-line, for others to see)
Edit: I found a link dated 2011 for Aer Lingus:
http://www.aerlingus.com/Services/Guide ... _Goods.pdf
The rules are clear that you can CARRY ON your xPAP if it's a domestic carrier or a foreign carrier with flights that touch the U.S. The rules say they can refuse to let you board if you say you want to USE the device but don't have the certification and batteries.

The rules DON'T say what happens if you tell them you want to USE the xPAP and they refuse to let you board the airplane and THEN you say, OK, I only want to carry it onboard.

Every carrier providing service with aircraft more than 19 seats must have a Complaint Resolution Officer ("CRO") available at all times at each airport the carrier serves. Each carrier must have a copy of the federal regulations implementing the Air Carrier Access Act ("part 382"--I travel with my own copy of the sections relevant to CPAP) on hand at all times. I believe that just about the only thing the CRO can't do is override the pilot's judgment about safety.

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Re: do any cpaps have FAA approval labels ON THEM?

Post by Drowsy Dancer » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:53 pm

cosmo wrote:http://www.resmed.com/us/documents/ResM ... Letter.pdf

http://www.resmed.com/us/service_and_su ... c=patients

Please note that many ResMed devices do not carry a label indicating their FAA approved status. Nevertheless, the devices indicated in the FAA compliance letter have successfully completed FAA testing as required for in-flight use. Final approval for in-flight usage, however, lies with the individual airline carrier.
Here's the counterpart letter from Respironics: http://media.50below.com//organizations ... evices.pdf

And from the maker of the Transcend:

http://www.mytranscend.com/wp-content/u ... liance.pdf

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