resmed-goes-on-warpath-over-sleep-apnea-gear-patents

[Todzo]

http://www.law360.com/internationaltrad ... ar-patents

[Sir NoddinOff]

Hardy, har. If all the execs and management at ResMed spend all their time defending their bygone days of innovative technology with lawsuits, then expect them soon to fall by the wayside when somebody else fills the need., not to mention build a lot of animosity with faithful CPAP patients along the way. You don't need to be innovative anymore just have a great team of ivy league lawyers.

[Wulfman...]

That was posted last evening. (different link) It's on the second page now.

Den


In the NEWS: ResMed Action

Postby Papit on Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:12 pm

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[idamtnboy]

Hardy, har. If all the execs and management at ResMed spend all their time defending their bygone days of innovative technology with lawsuits, then expect them soon to fall by the wayside when somebody else fills the need., not to mention build a lot of animosity with faithful CPAP patients along the way. You don't need to be innovative anymore just have a great team of ivy league lawyers.

A fast way to lose a patent is to just stand by while someone uses technology that mimics what is in the patent. Ain't gonna happen. For all we know the masks, which patents are allegedly being infringed, may only be 5 years old, or even 10 years. Patents last for 17 years. Why do you fault Resmed for defending their patents?

[chunkyfrog]

It is not uncommon for large companies to have used various unethical means to obtain "their" patents in the first place.
--Just saying!

[NateS]

A fast way to lose a patent is to just stand by while someone uses technology that mimics what is in the patent. Ain't gonna happen. For all we know the masks, which patents are allegedly being infringed, may only be 5 years old, or even 10 years. Patents last for 17 years. Why do you fault Resmed for defending their patents?

+1

Why are people always complaining when companies or inventors file patent suits? We, the consumers. are the ones who benefit from inventors and companies who employ inventors. If everything can be knocked off willy-nilly ripping off the inventors, why would anyone spend time and effort creating and/or improving the products we all depend on?

We always get more of what we pay for - do you want more brilliant inventors and improved inventions or do you want invention to stagnate and rip-off artists to simply copy others' ideas? The whole concept of "rip-off" has contributed substantially to American loss of industry even though, in this case, the inventors happen to be brilliant Australians.

Regards, Nate

[Todzo]

A fast way to lose a patent is to just stand by while someone uses technology that mimics what is in the patent. Ain't gonna happen. For all we know the masks, which patents are allegedly being infringed, may only be 5 years old, or even 10 years. Patents last for 17 years. Why do you fault Resmed for defending their patents?

+1

Why are people always complaining when companies or inventors file patent suits? We, the consumers. are the ones who benefit from inventors and companies who employ inventors. If everything can be knocked off willy-nilly ripping off the inventors, why would anyone spend time and effort creating and/or improving the products we all depend on?

We always get more of what we pay for - do you want more brilliant inventors and improved inventions or do you want invention to stagnate and rip-off artists to simply copy others' ideas? The whole concept of "rip-off" has contributed substantially to American loss of industry even though, in this case, the inventors happen to be brilliant Australians.

Regards, Nate

Hi Nate,

But encouragement of invention is not going on that way. You see, a corporation is considered a "person" and so holds patents. When my brother signed on with big companies he signed away his rights to the patents on his ideas. The patents are not doing what they were designed to do.

In the medical enviornment and for xPAP in particular what is happening is even more unhealthy. The doctors do not know with is in those boxes. As well, the research on the boxes, for medical certification, is privately funded and so not publically available I do believe.

I think it is going to take the minds and efforts of the world working together to conquer OSA. The patent process and law is getting in the way.

Have a great week!

Todzo

[SnoringinDXB]

I see nothing wrong with a company protecting its legal rights. It is effectively trying to protect its revenue streams. The strength of revenue streams determines the amount of resource that can be out into R&D and the overall financial health of a company (presuming the follow productive research pathways and turn those into good products).

Good luck ResMed with stopping the rip off copiers of your products.

[fredr500]

Hi Nate,

But encouragement of invention is not going on that way. You see, a corporation is considered a "person" and so holds patents. When my brother signed on with big companies he signed away his rights to the patents on his ideas. The patents are not doing what they were designed to do.

In the medical enviornment and for xPAP in particular what is happening is even more unhealthy. The doctors do not know with is in those boxes. As well, the research on the boxes, for medical certification, is privately funded and so not publically available I do believe.

I think it is going to take the minds and efforts of the world working together to conquer OSA. The patent process and law is getting in the way.

Have a great week!

Todzo

I don't understand your comments. I'm an engineer, I've worked for several big companies. Each one has required me to sign any inventions to them. All did allow that anything developed outside of work time, in non-related fields, would be assessed on an individual basis.

In other words, if they are paying me to do the research, providing the labs and materials to do the research, they own the output of my work. Seems fair to me. It is then up to them to monetize the patents and defend them. I think the patents are doing exactly what they were designed to do.

(Patent trolls are an entirely different issue.)

[Boyce]

A fast way to lose a patent is to just stand by while someone uses technology that mimics what is in the patent. Ain't gonna happen. For all we know the masks, which patents are allegedly being infringed, may only be 5 years old, or even 10 years. Patents last for 17 years. Why do you fault Resmed for defending their patents?

+1

Why are people always complaining when companies or inventors file patent suits? We, the consumers. are the ones who benefit from inventors and companies who employ inventors. If everything can be knocked off willy-nilly ripping off the inventors, why would anyone spend time and effort creating and/or improving the products we all depend on?

We always get more of what we pay for - do you want more brilliant inventors and improved inventions or do you want invention to stagnate and rip-off artists to simply copy others' ideas? The whole concept of "rip-off" has contributed substantially to American loss of industry even though, in this case, the inventors happen to be brilliant Australians.

Regards, Nate

For God's sake, I looked for the date April 1 on these two posts.

So you two do understand something about market economics???!!!!!!!

[idamtnboy]

For God's sake, I looked for the date April 1 on these two posts.

So you two do understand something about market economics???!!!!!!!

Ahhhh, so nice of you to recognize that disagreement and knowledge are indeed, not mutually exclusive!!

[blueh2o]

There's a difference between trying to protect a patent and trying to eliminate all competition (i.e. MS, Apple). Not sure what boat ResMed falls in.

[NateS]

A fast way to lose a patent is to just stand by while someone uses technology that mimics what is in the patent. Ain't gonna happen. For all we know the masks, which patents are allegedly being infringed, may only be 5 years old, or even 10 years. Patents last for 17 years. Why do you fault Resmed for defending their patents?

+1

Why are people always complaining when companies or inventors file patent suits? We, the consumers. are the ones who benefit from inventors and companies who employ inventors. If everything can be knocked off willy-nilly ripping off the inventors, why would anyone spend time and effort creating and/or improving the products we all depend on?

We always get more of what we pay for - do you want more brilliant inventors and improved inventions or do you want invention to stagnate and rip-off artists to simply copy others' ideas? The whole concept of "rip-off" has contributed substantially to American loss of industry even though, in this case, the inventors happen to be brilliant Australians.

Regards, Nate

For God's sake, I looked for the date April 1 on these two posts.

So you two do understand something about market economics???!!!!!!!

Is that a question? I do have a few letters after my name in Business Administration, should that make any difference to you, followed by practical experience in my working years. But I anticipate you saying that that's meaningless.

Regards, Nate

[Boyce]

If you have successful business experience, you already know that the letters are worthless.

[idamtnboy]

If you have successful business experience, you already know that the letters are worthless.

Not completely! I've told many college students that the degree they are going to receive is a ticket to enter the competition, nothing more. I agree that from the point of entering the competition onward the degree loses value with time. But I don't think they ever become totally valueless. So, those letters have value as a ticket to enter the competition. Beyond that, well ....... I have a 46 year old BS in Mech Engr, and a 22 year old CQE (Certified Quality Engineer). I consider each one worth at least a little bit yet, but certainly not what they were when I received them.

Nate may very well have a different take!