sleepyhead software

[mjmoll]

When you put your card in your computer and access the data with sleepyhead does it erase your card? Do you have to flip the read only button?

Thanks,

Jo Anna

[Pugsy]

No, simply putting the SD card in the computer and uploading the data to the software doesn't do anything at all to the contents of the SD card. There is nothing in SleepyHead that ever touches or could touch the files on the SD card.

The write protect suggestion came about because some Mac computers were adding a little file to the SD card (for some reason that I forget) and with that little file on the SD card the S9 machines were rejecting the entire SD card.
I have heard of one instance where someone's Windows OS program added a little file to the SD card and the S9 rejected it.

That said. I have been using a S9 machine for nearly a year now and I never have done the write protect thing and I have never had my machine tell me that I have an invalid card and reject it.

At worst if that happens we just let the machine erase the SD card so that it will accept it again and the machine will write the data, that it has stored within its internal memory, right back onto the SD card. So it isn't the end of the world if that happens.
Annoying yes, but not the end of the world. Enough data is stored on the machine itself to satisfy any DME or insurance compliance needs.

[wasserware]

I've been retrieving data from Sleepyhead and ResScan 4.2 on my windows 7 computer for the past 2 weeks and never had any problems!

[khauser]

Weird. EncoreBasic also writes files to the card. Doesn't trouble the machine whatsoever. I guess the S9 is more rigid...

On a related note (in that we're talking about SleepyHead), how do people generally get their charts posted? I see no way to put this on the clipboard, save as graphic, etc. Are screenshots the only way?

[Pugsy]

Weird. EncoreBasic also writes files to the card. Doesn't trouble the machine whatsoever. I guess the S9 is more rigid...

On a related note (in that we're talking about SleepyHead), how do people generally get their charts posted? I see no way to put this on the clipboard, save as graphic, etc. Are screenshots the only way?

EncoreBasic can write to the SD card but it doesn't do it unless you tell it to.

For how we post images of reports check out this thread...it covers pretty much everything from how to get screenshots (for those that don't know what we are talking about) to uploading.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=81072&p=737779#p737779
Some examples also.

[khauser]

I won't swear to it, but I thought EncoreBasic added a number of XML files that weren't there before I ran it. I certainly did not tell it to do so, and I did not use it to change any machine parameters.

Since SleepyHead works I'll be using that ... I think it's far better, and easier. In fact I still haven't figured out if Encore can show graphs, and if so, how. But I don't think I am missing anything.

Tomorrow, new machine (Series 60 w/ Heated Tube), new mask (Aloha), and much hope. I am more than a little impressed with our host's service...

[Pugsy]

I won't swear to it, but I thought EncoreBasic added a number of XML files that weren't there before I ran it.

It shouldn't have done anything to the SD card contents. I have probably 6 months of PR S1 and Basic use...never saw any extra files but then I didn't go through the SD card with a fine tooth comb either.
There's just nothing in the Basic software to transmit to the SD card except any changes that need to be made to the clinical setup via the SD card.
I have never heard of anyone reporting that Basic (or any other Encore version) placed anything on the SD card.
Most people don't even bother with using the software to change a setting in the setup menu. It's just easier and faster doing it manually at the machine level.

[mjmoll]

Thanks for your response, Pugsy. I was afraid to check it. I've only been using my cpap for two weeks so am fairly new to all this.

Jo Anna

[khauser]

I won't swear to it, but I thought EncoreBasic added a number of XML files that weren't there before I ran it.

It shouldn't have done anything to the SD card contents. I have probably 6 months of PR S1 and Basic use...never saw any extra files but then I didn't go through the SD card with a fine tooth comb either.
There's just nothing in the Basic software to transmit to the SD card except any changes that need to be made to the clinical setup via the SD card.
I have never heard of anyone reporting that Basic (or any other Encore version) placed anything on the SD card.
Most people don't even bother with using the software to change a setting in the setup menu. It's just easier and faster doing it manually at the machine level.

Certainly possible I just didn't see them the first time. The use of SleepyHead and Encore is very new to me.

[Pugsy]

Certainly possible I just didn't see them the first time. The use of SleepyHead and Encore is very new to me.

Well it isn't impossible that some files were added. If it happens again maybe you could watch real close for confirmation. Just so we can reassure someone who might also notice the added files.
At any rate the PR S1 machines don't seem to want to spit out "invalid SD card" easily like the S9 machines will do.
So if files get added the machine doesn't care and that is all that really matters anyway.

When the S9 machines find something it doesn't expect on the SD card it just refuses to accept the SD card.
Really annoying for lots of people.

[Denial Dave]

4 months of use here with sleepyhead.

every night, I remove my SD card from the S9, slide the protect switch to lock..install it into my pc & import my data to sleepyhead, etc..

before putting my SD card back into my Resmed S9, I slide the protect switch to unlock..

I may be being overly carefull, but thats my routine every night after work.

Dave

[archangle]

6 months or so using the S9. Win7 PC. Probably look at data once a week or so on SleepyHead. Never change the write protect tab. Never safely remove the card. Still using the same card, never had to let the machine format it.

[sparky2]

There's just nothing in the Basic software to transmit to the SD card except any changes that need to be made to the clinical setup via the SD card.
I have never heard of anyone reporting that Basic (or any other Encore version) placed anything on the SD card.

What about the “Initialize SD Card” function in EncoreBasic? Does that write much stuff to the card? I wanted to start using EB as well as SleepyHead, but I did not want to destroy the existing data on the card or make it somehow unusable for SH, but one cannot read the data until it is initialized. I looked in the “Help” that comes with EB and it said:
3. Select the data card you want to initialize for use in the therapy device then click the Initialize button.
If the data card is not blank a confirmation message is displayed verifying that you want to initialize the card. Note: Initialization does not erase the card.
Click Yes to confirm the initialization. When the initialization is complete, be sure to remove the data card from the reader BEFORE clicking the Finish button.

I have read elsewhere here that initialization does erase the SD card. Does anyone know which is correct?

[khauser]

Hmmm, I don't remember if I had to do that or not. If I were you I would back up the card before I let it initialize it just in case.

[Pugsy]

What about the “Initialize SD Card” function in EncoreBasic? Does that write much stuff to the card?

Initializing the SD card doesn't do anything to the SD card itself that I am aware of. Certainly doesn't erase it.
What it does (and it is a one time thing) is it assigns that SD card to that user profile.
Otherwise you get a message "this media doesn't belong to this patient" but a person doesn't have to initialize the card for first time use. Instead all they have to do when they see the message is just go ahead and proceed with the download and during the download the SD card gets assigned. You don't have to initialize or assign the card ahead of time.

Now there is a box to check in Basic that says "erase the card after download" and there is another that says "this card is to be returned to the patient".

I have never had one person reporting that their card went blank after initializing and I know a lot of people do it because I don't normally tell people about the "this media doesn't belong" message. Instead I tell them to read the Help section and it says to initialize or assign the card.

BTW any PR S1 machine users...your machine stores a lot of data in its internal storage. Should a SD card go bad or get erased by accident all the data that is stored in the internal memory will get put back on the SD card.
If you leave your SD card out by accident (still stuck in the computer) and you go put the SD card in your PR S1 machine it will write everything but the wave form graphs back onto the SD card. You won't lose much.
Near as I can tell it stores about a months worth of the graphs and detailed information before it starts overwriting the oldest in the internal storage.
Summary usage and AHI stuff will stay in the internal memory for a year.