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annd · Post by **annd** » Wed May 03, 2006 9:01 am

I was suprised to wake up about an hour after using a ComfortLite2 for the first time to find my nose full of water, water running down my face, and the top of my head wet from water leaking out at the rotating elbox. I didn't have this problem with the Swift (which fit very badly). I'm using the same heated humidifier.

Do other folks have this condensation problem? I've heard of a number of creative ways to deal with it, such as insulating the hoses with socks, but haven't had time to rig anything up yet.

Thanks.

Ann

Ric · Post by **Ric** » Wed May 03, 2006 9:18 am

Welcome to "RAINOUT".
Solutions include:

1. "Australian heated hose",
2. or "hose cover"
3. lower the temp of the HH,
4. raise the temp of the room.

RestInSeattle · Post by **RestInSeattle** » Wed May 03, 2006 9:56 am

It does seem that different nasal interfaces have different rainout limits. For example when using my Activa, I had to have a very low setting on the HH in order to not have the nasal rinse at night. My Swift on the other hand seems to not have a rainout problem at very high levels on the HH.

Could be that the ComfortLite 2 has a lower HH level in order to avoid rainout compared to the Swift.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed May 03, 2006 7:31 pm

It seems the majority of people here have ordered the Sleepzone Heated CPAP Tube from Australia to eliminate the rainout problem. If you want to use the search function to read about it, for keyword enter: Aussie Heated Hose.

Here is the link you can click on to order it if you're interested:

http://www.sleepzone.com.au

Bellcrest · Post by **Bellcrest** » Thu May 04, 2006 4:45 am

I use both the Aura and the CL2 with HH set at 4...no rainout at all.....

The answer is the Aussie Heated hose. http://www.sleepzone.com.au/showitems.a ... PAP%20Tube'

I love my aussie heated hose!

GoofyUT · Post by **GoofyUT** » Thu May 04, 2006 6:45 am

Or, you could try the WONDERFUL Fisher&Paykel HC604/608 CPAPs with Thermosmart technology which means a chip-controlled heated humidifier and heated hose that eliminates rain-out and provides ideal levels of humidity throughout the night. I'm new to CPAP and my doc ordered the F&P HC608 for the gitgo, and I've been only HUGELY impressed with it. The proof of the pudding is that whenever I mess with the recommended humidity settings, I sleep poorly. When I let the thing do its damned job the way that its designed to, I wake up fresh and rested with a clear nose and sinuses, for the FIRST TIME in my 55 years.

Nope. I don't have ANYTHING to do with F&P, CPAP.COM or any other bidness associated with the sleep industry. I'm a state government slug.

Chuck

roster · Post by **roster** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:02 am

annd wrote:I was suprised to wake up about an hour after using a ComfortLite2 for the first time to find my nose full of water, water running down my face, and the top of my head wet from water leaking out at the rotating elbox. I didn't have this problem with the Swift (which fit very badly). I'm using the same heated humidifier.

Do other folks have this condensation problem? I've heard of a number of creative ways to deal with it, such as insulating the hoses with socks, but haven't had time to rig anything up yet.

Thanks.

Ann

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OK, all of the posters so far have given you some good solutions. I have my humidifier setting on the next to highest number and sleep in a room that gets down to 62F on cold nights. I had a lot of rainout until I tried a tube cover (Snuggle Cover) and now I have no rainout. I recommend that you try a cover first because you can get one quickly and cheaply.

Snoozin' Bluezzz · Post by **Snoozin' Bluezzz** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:06 am

I have this problem with the Headrest but not the CL2. With the Headrest I have Aussie hose, hose cover, insulated the short hose connector (not the final piece right on top of the head - that's tonight), low HH and still woke up with a significant amount of drops in the interface this morning. Amazing!

But, as I have said over and over and over, it's an extremely comfortable interface so I keep on trying.

SB

mdkohm · Post by **mdkohm** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:25 am

Oops. Wrong thread.

NightHawkeye · Post by **NightHawkeye** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:36 am

I set my humidifier to the max of 5, and also use the heated hose. No rainout anymore with any mask. I used to have rainout.

Regards,
Bill

roztom · Post by **roztom** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:51 pm

I run my HH on 3 and during the winter like to kick it to 4.

I have taken a few nasal baths with the Ultra Mirage Nasal mask and the Swift (Chuckie's mask )

I got the Aussie hose and that solved the rainout but with the warmer weather the heated hose is too hot !!!

SO I'm using the regular hose and unless rainout returns it will just be a winter thing.

I just got an ACtiva so if rainout is a problem - then I will probably go back to the heated hose.

That Heated hose is expensive but consider your comfort and compliance is number one - a small price to make your therapy the best it can be.

Best,

Tom

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