Oboma .. another term

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Re: Greedy government employees!!!!

Post by woodworkerjunkie » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:57 pm

idamtnboy wrote:

I agree. The cost of shipping a package is similar between UPS, Fedex, and USPS. What I'm saying is UPS does not stop anywhere to make any kind of a delivery for less than about $5, while the postal carrier makes many, many, stops for an income to the PO of only pennies per stop. That is a big difference.

I dare say you forget. Assuring free and open communication among citizens was a primary concern of the founding fathers. That's why they established a government operated postal system. The only people who really, really, want to see the Post Office done away with, because it costs money to keep it alive, are the plutocrats who want to control the communications shared among all citizens. Do away with a system of free (or near-free in terms of cost) communications and you can control the population!
When it comes to smartpost, they are a very small percentage of FedEx's business. Most packages are delivered by FedEx Ground and some are also delivered by FedEx Home Delivery.
My point is the packages are larger, heavier and farther to travel between stops to make that $5.00. The post office makes that same $5.00 with any priority mail package and to a lesser degree smartpost package, plus it picks up all of those little .17 cent pops between packages. Most stops for the carrier usually includes more than a single piece of mail, which will usually bring it up to around .50 cents a stop. Money that Fedex and UPS don't have the opportunity to make between stops. Still, UPS and FedEx manages to make billions a year in profits, so why can't the postal service operate on a smaller budget? Because they are not as efficient and pay ridiculous union wages and benefits for work that any 18 year old could do! Even UPS pays union wages and still makes billions in profits!

I know the reason behind the postal service enactment. There are not a lot of people calling for the postal service to be done away with. They are saying that their usefulness is not as great as it used to be, that they need to scale down and cut back on their deliveries. The one's throwing a fit about that is the Union's and the postal workers of course. They might lose some of their ridiculous pay and benefits! And of course the Union's would lose even more power, something they can't stand the idea of! The unions in this country are a dying breed, lord knows they have helped bankrupt enough companies in this country. When was the last time you actually sent or received a letter from a friend, other than the occasional birthday or Christmas card? I believe that the internet is taking the place of the post office in terms of communications. Your absolutely right, do away with communications and you can control the population! That is why I believe the government wants to take control of the internet. Wanting the FCC to have control, so that they can control what can be shared over the net. People better wake up and pay attention to this "One World Government" talk, if the US signs on, the US will not be a good place to live! You guys want to bicker about the left or right, it's both sides! They are starting to sound so much alike, it is just a matter of one getting you to socialism faster than the other!

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Re: Greedy government employees!!!!

Post by Slinky » Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:21 pm

woodworkerjunkie wrote:... Because they are not as efficient and pay ridiculous union wages and benefits for work that any 18 year old could do! Even UPS pays union wages and still makes billions in profits! ...
Any 18 year old could do??? Not many 18 year olds had the ambition to work as hard as the postal workers do. Scads of them hired in at a good part time wage and only lasted 1-3 days. And that was back in the 90's when teens had more ambition than they do today. I would like to see how fast you would catch on and be able to deliver a mail route!!! Today's youngsters don't want to work and produce a product, they want to be "middle men" and siphon their income from the productivity of the true laborers. The more "middle men" the more expensive the product as the money is siphoned off and moves up the chain to the CEOs, etc.

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by Lizistired » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:25 pm

I agree Slinky.
I don't want the PO to go away. It's the only REAL address I have. I pay my bills online, but I don't own that address. I don't even know who does own it. AOL, Gmail, my main account is SBC, Yahoo, or AT&T.. I'm not sure. That can all disappear in a flash. It's not mine. That's why I still have my bills mailed to me. I would settle for once a week delivery. Every other day would allow them to down size. They could also put all the mail boxes back on the same side of the road!

As for unions, with all the talk about what we are leaving our grandchildren... they will have to figure out why we had unions in the first place. Corporations don't pay fair wages and institute workplace saftey out of the goodness of their heart. Regulation is implemented because there is a need for it evidenced my someone's blatant greed. NECC... People are no different than beans and bullets. They are just resources and procured at the lowest price possible.
I have witnessed what I consider wreckless practices by unions. It was usually due to the good employees not being involved in the process.
Many here love their employer sponsored health care. That will go the way of pensions as soon as unions are defeated in this country. Indiana is now a right to work state.... welcome to the new 3rd world. India is the world's lab, China is the world's factory, we might be the world's call center. At least you will be able to talk to someone who speaks english.

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by The Choker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:33 pm

Corporations don't pay fair wages and institute workplace saftey out of the goodness of their heart.
They do it because that want workers that are at least as good as the competition's workers.
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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by Lizistired » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:53 pm

The Choker wrote:
Corporations don't pay fair wages and institute workplace saftey out of the goodness of their heart.
They do it because that want workers that are at least as good as the competition's workers.
No they don't, they would rather undercut the price of the competitor's product.

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by Lizistired » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:00 pm

Ever heard of Chinese Overtime? 3 employess for the price of 2.

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by The Choker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:19 pm

Lizistired wrote:
No they don't, they would rather undercut the price of the competitor's product.


Even better!
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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by Lizistired » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:30 pm

And you wonder why people default on home loans or don't have auto insurance, our schools need to feed kids breakfast, and Mitt's car has it's own elevator!

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by Lizistired » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:36 pm

Tobacco companies added ammonia to their plant product to cause it to cross the blood brain barrier faster and become more addictive... All about profit.

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:43 pm

I have had some people with attitudes like yours on my payroll over the years. I learned quickly it is better to cut your losses and fire them right away. Quite often their peers have told me I did a good thing and morale improved.

Incompetence and inexperience can be dealt with. An attitude that sees the cup as 99% empty is poison to the organization. Put on gloves, dig the poison ivy up at the root and through it in the hottest furnace.
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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by The Choker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:47 pm

Enough said!
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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by Lizistired » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:07 pm

Yeah, like "small business" that tells people... I'll just pay you cash.... then they mail them a 1099 at tax time because they cannot part with a dollar.

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by Lizistired » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:47 pm

Get me started on "small business". Everything they do gets funneled through "the business". Their kids don't know how much a gallon of gas costs, because they have a key to the business tank... At tax time, they remodel the house/"office" or buy new equipment, the kids drive SUV's that qualify as business vehicles, they don't hire more employees and they don't expand. Everything gets funneled through the business..., and labor laws... forget those, overtime for their employees.... forget that.

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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by The Choker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:56 pm

Let them wallow in self pity. No use to get dirty with them.
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Re: Oboma .. another term

Post by The Choker » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:01 pm

The wine was good tonight. At 9:00 p.m. the sky is clear, the stars are shining bright and it is 49F with no breeze. My son and I are going for a long walk through the neighborhood.

I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving holiday!
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