General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
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archangle
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by archangle » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:57 pm
SleepingUgly wrote:Think of the ASV as a lover that has to be trained to give you what you need.
...That said, there's a limit to how trainable some lovers are.
Unfortunately, it forgets what you train it every day and you have to start training it again the next night.
Or does it remember what it's "learned" from the previous night?
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SleepingUgly
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by SleepingUgly » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:00 pm
archangle wrote:SleepingUgly wrote:Think of the ASV as a lover that has to be trained to give you what you need.
...That said, there's a limit to how trainable some lovers are.
Unfortunately, it forgets what you train it every day and you have to start training it again the next night.
Or does it remember what it's "learned" from the previous night?
We remember that it will catch on.
Look, I'm trying to put a positive spin on this.
Never put your fate entirely in the hands of someone who cares less about it than you do. --Sleeping Ugly
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tmiker
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by tmiker » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:19 pm
From surfing the internet before buying an ASV I found reference to Resmed VPAP Adapt having an "automatic" backup breathing rate at a fixed 15 breaths per minute. Probably higher than unassisted for quite a few people. Respironics has a true Auto mode based on your actual respiratory rate, for which I don't put the mask on until I've been laying down for at least 5 to 10 minutes and breathing has slowed, else I'm sure to experience this effect for a few minutes when breathing does slow down. If it still occurs and is too annoying you can turn the blower off and back on.
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ozze_dollar
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by ozze_dollar » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:57 pm
I have a VPAP ASV and the breathing rate was something I complained about in the first few weeks I had it. My sleep specialist said everyone says that and that I would get used to it. I did.
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JohnBFisher
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by JohnBFisher » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:23 pm
During the first few months of using an ASV, I found I would have to turn the blamed thing off and back on to get it to work with me. But before long, I found that I would just slow my breathing as I started to sleep. My body finally adjusted to the dance and it knows how to make it work with me. I honestly don't think about it anymore.
But it's pretty frustrating at first. No doubt about that.
"I get up. I walk. I fall down. Meanwhile, I keep dancing” from Rabbi Hillel
"I wish to paint in such a manner as if I were photographing dreams." from Zdzisław Beksiński
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wilsonintexas
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by wilsonintexas » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:21 am
I have the same machine, and had similar problems when first falling asleep, the machine ws pushing me.
I looked at my folumn flow, and I foudn that I had a pattern of taking deep breaths when I first go to bed, trying to relax. This shet the target ventelation volumns and rates higher. Then as I settled down, the breathing slowed, ans my targer rates went down.
I had to get into a pattern of putting the mask on, with the hose off. Takling my deep breaths, and setteling down, just for a few breaths, then putting on the mask.
the machine is no longer pushing me.
I found that if it is trying to push, I slow things down a few breaths, and it re-sets itself.
Ted wilson
Now retired
On cpap since 2014