How much is it worth?

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by archangle » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:53 am

Tino2You wrote:Dazzles,

Have you made it through your compliance period? If not, the DMA/insurance company may request the machine back.

Just sayin,
-tino
Good point. How long have you had the CPAP and are you sure it's yours?

Of course, you start with a higher price and see if anyone bites. Apparently, you can edit your existing ad after you've posted it and lower the prices as time passes.

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by LinkC » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:57 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Fortunately, it's not quite the same as reselling RX narcotics.
Why not? It appears there is NO difference according to FDA prescription requirements. Do you know of anything "official" that exempts second-hand CPAPs? I could find nothing.

chunkyfrog wrote:Used machines are the last refuge for the poor and underinsured.
As are illegally-obtained RX narcotics, sometimes. That doesn't make either legal.

chunkyfrog wrote:You can't harm someone with a cpap like you could with resold pharmaceuticals.
Then why does FDA require a 'script for CPAPs?

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by chunkyfrog » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:01 pm

Possibly to prevent tweakers from getting them legally and selling them for dope money.
More than likely to put a cork in the second hand supply from taking a bite out of DME profits.

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by archangle » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:08 pm

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by LinkC » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:32 pm

I doubt the FDA is concerned with keeping DME profits high. But who knows.

My point is the illegality of selling a xPAP without the purchaser having a valid prescription. And, worse, implying it's not illegal to those who may not know better.

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by Elle » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:11 pm

*Genuflects to Link*

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by Dazzles » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:39 am

Hi there!

I did make it through the compliance portion on my "starter" machine can't remember the name -- the little one with the built in alarm clock. After that my doctor (doctor is their own DME) gave me a brand new S9. They said it was "mine" at the time, and my insurance has paid for it in full. In 2 weeks, it will have been 1 year ago.

Follow-up testing determined that my mild obstructive apnea went away almost completely when I was allowed to sleep on my side. They also didn't have me hooked up to as many wires (testing for seizures the first time) so when I was on my side there wasn't anything wrapped around my neck.

After an ultrasound -- two huge Thyroid nodules. After getting my thyroid normal closer to level, I feel less tired during the day and sleep better at night. The closer we get to optimal range, the better I feel.

The problem is all these doctors who are supposed to be broad-spectrum, and they just really focus on the money makers. My neurologist tested my hormone levels, commented on how they were "high". And that was that --- sleep test and thousands of dollars to my insurance later "Here, sleep with this on your face". I wouldn't accept that answer. 25 years of documented severe insomnia (including cases were I was rushed to the hospital for having hallucinations after being awake for 3 days). And my issue was sleep apnea? No. 25 years of difficulty falling asleep and "here, strap this on, it will help". No, it made it worse -- more hospital visits after days with no sleep. She even told me not to use the mouth guard and that the surgery never works -- just to get me to agree to the machine.

Anyway, I got the answer I wanted. I just want to end this by saying: If you feel tired all the time. If you've been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, and Depression or Bi-Polar --- please press about getting Thyroid testing done. No matter what machine you use or pressure you use -- it won't fix thyroid issues. The longer they go untreated, the more damage done to your body. Thanks guys!

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by archangle » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:58 pm

Any luck selling the machine?

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Re: How much is it worth?

Post by Foxtail » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:42 pm

Just my 2cents, but I think if you sell a script unit to someone without a script and something goes wrong. You could be held liable. I agree that the secondary market is the only hope for some people. Sadly some people will self medicate without enough knowledge of the problem.

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