APAPs, in-lab titrations, and finding the correct pressure

[DreamStalker]

How the ResScan software actually calculates it? .... I don't know, I didn't write the software.

A very smart reply! So why are you taking guesses?

jnk, you might be right with this:

As for what I assume to be the core of the range-of-dates-calculations question about ResMeds, from avi123, namely, "how the 60 nights results are calculated and given for the whole period," I defer to Velbor from back in the S8 II days:

Velbor, on Sat May 23, 2009 9:52 am, wrote:ResMed manuals state that "All statistics calculated for a range of dates are median values. .... The median is a more robust measure than an average (or arithmetic mean) for a data set that has some extreme values."

viewtopic/t27384/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42103&p=370530p370530

What is a "median"? The guy drawing little numbers in this video seems to know: http://www.khanacademy.org/math/algebra ... --and-mode

Disclaimer: I don't know if the video is RobySue-approved.
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jnk, you're saying that:

The RsScan just takes a plain average of all the nights in a period for each night's pressure, and leak that are broken into Median, 95% Percentile, and Maximum, and post it for the Period. It does it also for the other parameters such as AHIs, setting pressure, etc.

Added: NO, IT'S THE MEDIAN.

I didn't guess.

You asked ... "how the 60 nights results are calculated and given for the whole period? " ... NOT how they were calculated by ResScan. I answered how they could be calculated which was not a guess. Jeff's link to Velbor's comment refined how the 60 night calculation was made using the median of the 60 values of 95th percentiles.

The real question however is as Jeff originally asked of YOU ... "Why? What problem are you trying to solve?" ... or more accurately, what problem are you trying to create on this thread?

[avi123]

All the posters in this thread could not tell how ResScan calculates the values for a period such as the following which should be valuable to those using Resmed XPAPS and checking their treatments.

[jnk]

Poor avi123.

At least he is appreciative and pleasant to deal with.

I'm so glad he's at least got that going for him.



As long as you're learnin' avi123. We try to be there for everybody.

Hope you're having a good summer, Pal.

[lazer]

Poor avi123.

At least he is appreciative and pleasant to deal with.

I'm so glad he's at least got that going for him.



As long as you're learnin' avi123. We try to be there for everybody.

Hope you're having a good summer, Pal.

[avi123]

jnk, do you live at Cadman Plaza E?

[Todzo]

Wow, someone's having a good time going after some of our "best and brightest"! I'll have to keep my eye on Pugsy, Robysue, jnk and some of our other "stars" who are giving us bad information! And I was so sure I was learning something from all of you! I should also list Dream Stalker on the other thread on self-titration!

Hi DoriC,

In the June edition of the journal "Sleep" there is a commentary and article concerning the recent HomePAP trial and ones like it. Auto-PAP tritration is a better way - I think mostly because it looks at data taken in home, in the persons bed, and over a week of time.

What those who really do look at thier own data rapidly become frustrated with is the ineffectiveness of our current methodoligies. Tests in lab need to be replaced as do titrations there. The night to night, week to week, month to month, season to season, year to year, and life crisis to life crisis variability in our very real bodies needs to be accounted for it the treatment of Sleep Disordered Breathing.

Also, I believe you have a responsibilty to specifically point out any bad information you do see here and to supply the specific correct information.

Take care,

Todzo

[jnk]

jnk, do you live at Cadman Plaza E?

That's the location of the fountain/park/emergency-helipad at which I agree to meet with stalkers or people from Craigslist. It has comfortable benches and chess-board tables and is the closest location to me from which every approach is fully covered by federal and local law-enforcement video cameras (both, since it is directly between the front of the newer location for the New York City Office of Emergency Management and the side of the Federal Court Building in which a large number of federal agents and researchers have their offices). It's a fun, safe place to hang out during lunch as long as you ignore the fact that half the people eating there are armed to the teeth and that a disproportionate number of the computer geeks seem to speak with a natural-born Arabic or Farsi/Parsi/Persian accent. But then, every corner of this part of Brooklyn is interesting to me.

[avi123]

jnk, do you live at Cadman Plaza E?

That's the location of the fountain/park/emergency-helipad at which I agree to meet with stalkers or people from Craigslist. It has comfortable benches and chess-board tables and is the closest location to me from which every approach is fully covered by federal and local law-enforcement video cameras (both, since it is directly between the front of the newer location for the New York City Office of Emergency Management and the side of the Federal Court Building in which a large number of federal agents and researchers have their offices). It's a fun, safe place to hang out during lunch as long as you ignore the fact that half the people eating there are armed to the teeth and that a disproportionate number of the computer geeks seem to speak with a natural-born Arabic or Farsi/Parsi/Persian accent. But then, every corner of this part of Brooklyn is interesting to me.

OK let's meet tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. here and please order for me:

http://parkplazarestaurant.com/menus/Pa ... g_Menu.pdf

BODYBUILDER'S
BREAKFAST

SIX EGG WHITE OMELETTE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11.95
With Fresh Turkey, Spinach, Avocado & Tomato

I speak Arabic.

[jnk]

At 10:00 a.m., I'm at work.

Best place for breakfast in the Heights is Clark's Restaurant at the corner of Clark and Henry, across from the two train.

I don't eat at Park Plaza for breakfast anymore because coffee used to be included with breakfast--now they charge extra. Park Plaza chocolate cheesecake is as good as it gets, though.

[avi123]

At 10:00 a.m., I'm at work.

Question:
jnk, since you still work does it mean that you have had OSA since early age?

[DreamStalker]

At 10:00 a.m., I'm at work.

Question:
jnk, since you still work does it mean that you have had OSA since early age?

Are you like 5 years old? ... cuz you sure ask a lot of questions.

[robysue]

Oh, that's perfect, RobySue! Kaa even points out, "You're snoring"!

Yep. And after my Kaa says I'm snoring, he increases the pressure from 6/4 to 8/6 pretty quickly too ...

[DoriC]

Wow, someone's having a good time going after some of our "best and brightest"! I'll have to keep my eye on Pugsy, Robysue, jnk and some of our other "stars" who are giving us bad information! And I was so sure I was learning something from all of you! I should also list Dream Stalker on the other thread on self-titration!

Hi DoriC,
Also, I believe you have a responsibilty to specifically point out any bad information you do see here and to supply the specific correct information.Take care,
Todzo

I do hope that you simply overlooked my "smiley face" in my post and didn't realize I was just joking. In case you were for real, the people I was teasing are all my buddies and have been of enormous help and encouragement to me along with so many other "stars" on this extrodinary forum. If you should get to know me you'll notice that I sometimes try to be "amusing" to break the tension of a thread that's going nowhere. It sometimes works. I think most of us enjoy taking a break once in awhile from the really serious nature of this forum. Take care.

[avi123]

Poor avi123.

At least he is appreciative and pleasant to deal with.

I'm so glad he's at least got that going for him.



As long as you're learnin' avi123. We try to be there for everybody.

Hope you're having a good summer, Pal.

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Layzer, you need to get rid of that bug so I could put you back on my friendly list.

BTW, this bug is (was) greatunclebill, from Lower Alabama 's Avatar at the Apnea Board.

See it here (scroll down):

http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread ... My-Monitor

[avi123]

Oh, that's perfect, RobySue! Kaa even points out, "You're snoring"!

Yep. And after my Kaa says I'm snoring, he increases the pressure from 6/4 to 8/6 pretty quickly too ...

robysue,

Going over your sleep problems in the past, is it possible that you been suffering from UAR syndrome and not OSA?

Just in the case that I am wrong this is for you as an apology:



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