Provigil shock!

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by chunkyfrog » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:04 pm

Getting drugs is such a GAME.
It's so sad when we're too dang sick to feel like 'playing' . . .

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by sleepycarol » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:09 pm

Around here you can't get pseudo-ephedrine easily. You need to jump through hoops and still might be investigated for the manufacturing of drugs if in your possession.

I can't use caffeine due to a severe allergy to it. It causes erratic heartbeat, breathlessness, etc. I have had to be admitted to hospital for it, and was warned to read labels and stay away from it.

Some days I just muddle through the days best I can, knowing others have conditions far worse than mine.
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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by The Choker » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:30 pm

sleepycarol wrote:Around here you can't get pseudo-ephedrine easily. You need to jump through hoops and still might be investigated for the manufacturing of drugs if in your possession.
"Around here" in your case apparently means Missouri. Here is the paradox. You say pseudoephedrine is hard to obtain and law enforcement oversight is heavy. Yet Missouri has more meth labs than any other state.

To prevent all the crime that is associated with the meth supply chain, meth should be legalized and sold by legitimate regulated concerns. Then anyone who is stupid enough to use meth could easily get a supply and just waste themselves away on it.

The government could go on a campaign to publicize these users' cases and communities could point them out to their children. Hopefully the sight of these meth users would be enough to scare the next generation of morons away from experimenting with meth. If not, let them suffer the consequences of their very poor decisions.

Legalization, by eliminating most of the crime associated with the meth supply chain, would also make all of us safer in our homes and on the streets. A dude strung out on meth is in no mood and no shape to commit crimes as long as he can get his next hit cheaply at the corner drugstore.

Think about it.

Coincidentally, this article, Woman arrested with cooking meth inside Missouri Wal-Mart, was just posted this afternoon - http://www.therolladailynews.com/news/x ... e-Wal-Mart

For goodness sake give them all they want before they blow one of us up in the aisle at the grocery store!

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by The Choker » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:34 pm

fredboy wrote:So Ive had some severe fatigue days lately and my doctor wrote me for provigil !

My neighbor, a pharmacist assured me I was on the correct path, I felt it to be the right path!

You have a poison ivy vine growing in your life and you are cutting off a few leaves. Would it not be better to pull up the root and destroy it?

Why don't you and the doctor investigate the root cause? You won't get much satisfaction from long term use of one of these drugs.
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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by kteague » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:07 am

insylem wrote: But I get the imrpession that these side effects that tehy are sueing fore are so general and vague that you can't positivily link them to said drug, or if you do, it was in the disclaimer in the orignal comercail. But, these lawyers and people keeps sueing the pharmicudicla companies... wich results in them having to raise their prices to cover the cost of lawsuist... It's a sad vicious circle
I do agree about the frivolous lawsuits that benefit only the attorneys and increase drug costs. The bad ones make it harder for legitimate claims to to be given credibility without a fight. I didn't even know my symptoms were a side effect of Mirapex until I saw it on the news about a study that had been released, then upon research found out there was a class action lawsuit. For many the side effects had been life altering, and it was shown that the pharmaceutical company had prior knowledge of the potential side effect and had not disclosed it. I never joined the class action lawsuit as it was at a time I was just trying to survive and had no energy to give to a legal battle.

I have been through the Provigil battle with insurance and finally did get it approved until my coverage changed. Had to get by without it. If I were working, the battle would be more important. For me, if I get sleepy, I sleep.

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by fredmertz » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:26 am

archangle wrote:Be sure and write your congresscritters to complain about being ripped off by drug companies. There is no excuse for them being allowed to charge what they charge for drugs.
Drugs are expensive to develop and drugs that do not appeal to a broad number of patients (like a narcolepsy drug) have to be expensive or companies cannot recoup their investment. If you regulate how much they can charge, the companies will stop funding R&D for drugs that will not have broad appeal. And in that case, nobody wins.

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by The Choker » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:29 am

fredmertz wrote:
Drugs are expensive to develop and drugs that do not appeal to a broad number of patients (like a narcolepsy drug) have to be expensive or companies cannot recoup their investment. If you regulate how much they can charge, the companies will stop funding R&D for drugs that will not have broad appeal. And in that case, nobody wins.
It is good to see there is at least one member who understands how the real world works. I hope you post more often.
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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by fredmertz » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:37 am

The Choker wrote:
fredmertz wrote:
Drugs are expensive to develop and drugs that do not appeal to a broad number of patients (like a narcolepsy drug) have to be expensive or companies cannot recoup their investment. If you regulate how much they can charge, the companies will stop funding R&D for drugs that will not have broad appeal. And in that case, nobody wins.
It is good to see there is at least one member who understands how the real world works. I hope you post more often.
Thanks -- socially liberal/fiscally conservative. I live a life of paradoxes.

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by The Choker » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:57 am

fredmertz wrote:



socially liberal/fiscally conservative. I live a life of paradoxes.
This is not at all a paradox if you believe in personal freedom.

Personal freedom means individuals are allowed to do whatever they want as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others. They cannot use force, coercion or fraud against other individuals. But other than that they are free to act and accept the consequence of their actions. This is sometimes described as social liberalism. (But I must say that people today who call themselves liberal do not believe individuals are responsible for the consequences of their actions.)

As for fiscally conservative, if we have a large government that is irresponsible with money then our personal freedom and the personal freedom of future generations of individuals is infringed upon. If we have a limited government that is very careful with the citizens' money then personal freedom is greatly improved.

So my point is, if you believe in personal freedom, you will be socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

All other positions lead to immoral infringements upon personal freedom of others.
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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by Just_passing_thru » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:27 am

I ran across this thread while researching the generic Provigil costs.
My insurance prices a 90day supply of modafinil 200mg at $2259.46 (my cost is $252)
A 90day supply of Provigil 200mg is $2259.46 (my cost is $277)
90 days of Nuvigil 150mg is 1066.05 (zero copay)
I've read Nuvigil is currently cheaper as Cephalon will keep its exclusive patent, and make up lost revenue over time.

I prefer modafinil over Nuvigil as I work a 12hr night shift. I usually take a half tab of modafinil before work, and the other half at midnight.
When I take Nuvigil, I usually start to fade out during the last 2-3 hrs of my shift. (probably formulated for someone who works an 8 hr shift.)
BTW- I have purchased Modafinil from a pharmacy in Mexico (sold OTC). It is manufactured in the US by DSM Pharmaceuticals, and sold under the name Modiodal. A 28 day supply cost me $85. I wouldn't buy it through mail order though. I just thought I'd mention it to illustrate how hard the drug companies are raping us.

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by Just_passing_thru » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:31 am

Just_passing_thru wrote: A 90day supply of Provigil 200mg is $2259.46 (my cost is $277)
Just a correction... A 90day supply of Provigil 200mg is $2510.51 (my cost is $277)
Not much of discount over the generic version.

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by SleepingBearDoNtWake » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:01 pm

Hello,

I can't believe the high cost for that medicine! That's just outrageous! I find it sickening that medications that people need could be priced so high.
Any ways, in the mean time, you might want to try nuvigal, it is like provigil and they have a coupon on there site for 1 month free of the medicine. That would be one option.
The second option would be to go onto provigil website and check out the Prescription Assistance Program. I don't know if you will qualify, but I was able to get help through a program like that one for a med I needed when I was out of work, and I was able to get a year of free meds through the company.
Don't give up! Keep us posted!

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Re: Provigil shock!

Post by josh816 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:05 pm

It sure does seem crooked when the manufacturer suddenly changed significantly more for Provigil and only offered copay coupons on Nuvigil as the patent expiration date came closer and closer. It appears they want to switch everyone over to the product that remains exclusive to them, and all of this after Cephalon paid four generic drug companies a total of $200 million to delay generic Provigil for 5 years.

Generic Provigil was finally available in May. The first company approved to sell the generic (Teva) has exclusivity for 6 months. So in November , additional companies can sell their generics and then there will be true competition and prices will drop dramatically. However, since Teva bought Cephalon in May 2011, perhaps they will again pay hundreds of millions of dollars to the other generic companies to delay true competition. It pretty ironic that the two generic purchases i have made contained the brand name pills stamped with PROVIGIL on the pill.

I'm all for the free market, but when companies take all these steps to prevent true competition, it sure seems shady to me.

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fredmertz wrote:
Drugs are expensive to develop and drugs that do not appeal to a broad number of patients (like a narcolepsy drug) have to be expensive or companies cannot recoup their investment. If you regulate how much they can charge, the companies will stop funding R&D for drugs that will not have broad appeal. And in that case, nobody wins.
It is good to see there is at least one member who understands how the real world works. I hope you post more often.